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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKCarbonEVO
Aaron was that Jessee's car?

For the money I would stick to the 65mm MilSpec. I may be going to a 4.5" FMIC and 3" UICP and 70-75mm throttle body in the future but I'm not looking for much of a gain honestly. I would be happy with 10whp. My goal is to make the most power on the lowest boost.

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Jesse went from a MIL.SPEC to that 75mm. On maxed setups it doesnt seem to do much more than smooth things out. The 695 might have had low timing, I dont have the log so I cant say that was 100% back to back.
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
Jesse went from a MIL.SPEC to that 75mm. On maxed setups it doesnt seem to do much more than smooth things out. The 695 might have had low timing, I dont have the log so I cant say that was 100% back to back.
Have you tested this on a lower boost setting? I remember a while back when Al did head testing (), and lost power with a ported head because he thought the turbo was already at it's limits.

I already have a 3" UICP, so I'm planning on going ahead and getting a 75mm TB so I don't have a neck down in the piping there.
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 10:10 AM
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Yes we tested it at the full range on the car on both pumpgas and racegas. If you already have it keep it but I would be surprised if it really stepped up a bunch....we certainly didnt see massive gains.

We have seen losses on ported heads too, mismatched combos, bad port jobs, cams that dont work with the headflow, etc. As much testing as we do and as much as we did on this car I really think we covered our bases in that dept though.

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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 09:02 AM
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what is the stock TB size ? 60mm ?
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 09:36 AM
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james im in the same boat as you, im using the DI small plenum manifold with a buschur 65mm TB. i think it will work great on the street too, but i dont mind lag it just makes for more fun!
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 09:45 AM
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ya lag makes it fair for everyone else, lol. i guess we will see what falls into my lap and that will decide what im getting as far as throttle bodys go this year
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by VGergo
what is the stock TB size ? 60mm ?
~59mm off the top of my head.
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Hiboost
In the next 2 weeks I'm testing the following on my Evo X in stages on the dyno:

1) Larger Plenum Intake Manifold with stock TB and 2.5" cold side piping

2) Larger Plenum Intake Manifold with 75mm TB and 2.5" cold side piping

3) Larger Plenum Intake Manifold with 75mm TB and 3.0" cold side piping

The Intake Manifold in stages 2 and 3 will be a second one that I'm having a 75mm inlet and flange welded onto.

We'll see once and for all if these upgrades will make any difference on a 550-650 crank HP setup. Possibly I might test 2.75" cold side piping since a ~70mm pipe probably flows similar to a 75mm TB when you consider the TB shaft going through the middle.

you ever get to this? i'd love to see the results...
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 01:06 PM
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Camping here for interesting result.
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Old Dec 11, 2012 | 03:15 PM
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Hey guys.

Sorry to dig up an old thread, but most of this discussion covers larger intakes and throttles on a 2.0L

Has anyone looked at the effect a manifold and throttle would have on a 2.3/2.4L? Looking at a few builds, it seems that the larger engine responds to the larger intake/throttle MUCH better then the 2.0L...
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Old Dec 11, 2012 | 03:21 PM
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It doesn't say the engine size, but the Full Blown's apparently have decent results. I don't know if I believe it or not, but I bought one for my car

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Old Dec 11, 2012 | 07:12 PM
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I am considering having MAP port my stock intake manifold, they say they made 36 whp on a stock turbo aggressive 93 tune, I wonder if this is true?
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Old Dec 11, 2012 | 09:50 PM
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^ Not too sure..

But I'm very interested in the effects of bigger intake + Throttle on a larger motor.
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Old Dec 11, 2012 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Tonba
^ Not too sure..

But I'm very interested in the effects of bigger intake + Throttle on a larger motor.
bigger the motor and the higher the power, the more you will gain. on a stock motor with a mall turbo, total waste of money. on a 2.3 or 2.4 with 700hp? you will see a lot more gains.
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Old Dec 11, 2012 | 10:58 PM
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Very informative thread.
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