A Warning about ACT clutches to eveyone
Ummm.....why the fug are you taking your car to a shop with mechanics that have to be told how to work on your car? That's your first mistake. Also, why would you ACD pump have to be bled when swapping a clutch? Drive down to AMS and get your **** fixed worked on by a proper shop. Not some back woods dumb BS shop in the middle of no where.
-Jalal
-Jalal
My ACT HDSS with Streetlite Flywheel has held up for over 50k miles and the only reason why it needs to be changed is because of me. I launch quite a bit and it's taken its toll. 330/330 @ CBRD.
-Jalal
-Jalal
I feel sorry for a lot of manufacturers that have to take the brunt of it from people that have jumped into the middle of the alphabet, so to speak, and have no clue WTF is going on.....THIS TREAD SHOULD BE CLOSED AND OR REMOVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let's start weeding out the BS on this site!!!!!!!!!!!!
I feel sorry for a lot of manufacturers that have to take the brunt of it from people that have jumped into the middle of the alphabet, so to speak, and have no clue WTF is going on.....THIS TREAD SHOULD BE CLOSED AND OR REMOVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let's start weeding out the BS on this site!!!!!!!!!!!!
The thing is the clutch didn't fail. The TOB failed. It sucks but for some reason it's seems a common occurrence with kit supplied TOB's. For that reason superstitious people will discard the supplied TOB on some clutch kits and opt to separately buy an OEM TOB from Mitsu. I've heard this a lot on the forums.
I have a competition stage 3. There was word of problems with the supplied TOB when I purchased the kit so I bought an OEM TOB instead. No problems so far.
I saw a comment about the idle speed/sound changing with the clutch engaged/disengaged. This is normal. With the clutch disengaged. The friction disk, and input shaft of the trans are not spinning therefore there's less rotating mass in the engine. When you take it out of gear and take your foot off the pedal the clutch is engaged. Now the clutch disk, and input shaft add their mass and friction to the flywheel and change the idle speed/sound. It's just the way it works. It's more noticeable with a light flywheel because the clutch disk and input shaft make up a higher percentage of the total rotating mass. Therefore that masses addition or removal from the equation makes more of a difference.
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From: Winchestertonfieldville (Rochester, NY)
You can have a stock clutch, or any type of performance clutch last thousands upon thousands of miles. It all comes down to the installer(s) and the driver(s).
I've seen countless times transmission shops and even threads on here say, USE the OEM TOB, yet people choose to use these companies replica only to be dissappointed. Sure some people do fine with them but it's a chance you'd have to be willing to take. ACT is in business to sell you clutches/parts over and over. Mitsu designed it so they wouldn't have to deal with you again after they sold you the car. In my 2G the ACT throwout ALWAYS started ticking after a few thousand miles. Switched to an OEM, voila, no ticking.
Pick and choose your battles, and instead of jumping the gun on an ACT, do some research.
I've seen countless times transmission shops and even threads on here say, USE the OEM TOB, yet people choose to use these companies replica only to be dissappointed. Sure some people do fine with them but it's a chance you'd have to be willing to take. ACT is in business to sell you clutches/parts over and over. Mitsu designed it so they wouldn't have to deal with you again after they sold you the car. In my 2G the ACT throwout ALWAYS started ticking after a few thousand miles. Switched to an OEM, voila, no ticking.
Pick and choose your battles, and instead of jumping the gun on an ACT, do some research.
Also remember, this dude mentioned that he had to tell the shop how to do some things when they were installing the clutch. This was because he lives in the middle of no where and there no evo's around so they aren't familiar with them. That could be a HUGE reason, if not THE reason why he has had issues.
-Jalal
-Jalal
I think a big thing that happens is people are not familiar with removing and installing the heavy evo transmission. When they're putting it back with the new clutch kit waiting they tweak the input shaft a little by not carefully moving the trans straight in. This damages the TOB or retaining clip slightly. From then on it might work but it's a ticking time bomb.
You have to thread that input shaft nice and straight in without letting that heavy trans drop in the rear or you'll screw something up and there's really not much room to do so.
It's definitely a job you want someone on that has done a few before.
You have to thread that input shaft nice and straight in without letting that heavy trans drop in the rear or you'll screw something up and there's really not much room to do so.
It's definitely a job you want someone on that has done a few before.
The throwout bearing is not ACT's problem...now the question is, did you even have a new TOB put in when you installed the clutch? If not, that's your fault. And even if you did, TOBs are a wear and tear item. They will go out eventually...
DONT GET THE ACT HDSS Clutch KIT Ive had one on my car for 30k-40k and now my car lives its life on jackstands! After dropping over a grand on the HDSS and the ACT street lite fly wheel and then shelling out anouther 675 to have it installed, the throw out bearing went out. So now I have to eather pay to have my ACT rebuilt all over again when it should have been good in the first place. SO instead Im just going to get an Exedy clutch and flywheel now and throw my HDSS in the garbage. Having to pay for a clutch twice is the worst so make sure to save your self alot of time and money by not getting a clutch from ACT or youll have to pay the price like I did.