Evo 9 vs FP Green
How is the green for daily driving without down shifting? Coming from a Cobra, I enjoy the IX turbo response around 2300-2600rpm. Anything lower bogs and doesn't give me the power to pass someone or advance roughly a car length forward quickly. I am definitely looking to maintain as much low end as possible with my goals.
I can be cruising on a 40mph street and just gas it to pass people. It's great for when people quickly change lanes or try to block the fast lane to have enough juice without a down shift.
I know the Red or Black at 2300-2600rpm will feel more like the stock IX turbo at 1700rpm, but will it still bog unable to build boost or will the engine have enough grunt to do something?
I'm not terribly familiar with this car when running a bigger turbo. I mean after all, the V8 guys make the Evo sound laggy but the IX *really* surprised me when I drove it. So is this lag with a Black as bad as some guys make it out to be? I'd love to go 2.3 + Black which I hear is really streetable but what about the stock 2.0? What about the HTAGreen at 2300-2600rpm? Does it do anything or am I really looking to lose all my fun without down shifting?
I can be cruising on a 40mph street and just gas it to pass people. It's great for when people quickly change lanes or try to block the fast lane to have enough juice without a down shift.
I know the Red or Black at 2300-2600rpm will feel more like the stock IX turbo at 1700rpm, but will it still bog unable to build boost or will the engine have enough grunt to do something?
I'm not terribly familiar with this car when running a bigger turbo. I mean after all, the V8 guys make the Evo sound laggy but the IX *really* surprised me when I drove it. So is this lag with a Black as bad as some guys make it out to be? I'd love to go 2.3 + Black which I hear is really streetable but what about the stock 2.0? What about the HTAGreen at 2300-2600rpm? Does it do anything or am I really looking to lose all my fun without down shifting?
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basic bolt on evo 9 doesn't even have cams! 93oct...... lets see a evo 9 turbo do that efficiently.
from my experience tuning dozens of fp green hta's its the best low end turbo you can get and packs a huge punch on e85 also..
the 3 most popular turbos atm are probably;
fp green hta
fp black
hta86
basic bolt on evo 9 doesn't even have cams! 93oct...... lets see a evo 9 turbo do that efficiently.
from my experience tuning dozens of fp green hta's its the best low end turbo you can get and packs a huge punch on e85 also..
the 3 most popular turbos atm are probably;
fp green hta
fp black
hta86
How is the green for daily driving without down shifting? Coming from a Cobra, I enjoy the IX turbo response around 2300-2600rpm. Anything lower bogs and doesn't give me the power to pass someone or advance roughly a car length forward quickly. I am definitely looking to maintain as much low end as possible with my goals.
I can be cruising on a 40mph street and just gas it to pass people. It's great for when people quickly change lanes or try to block the fast lane to have enough juice without a down shift.
I know the Red or Black at 2300-2600rpm will feel more like the stock IX turbo at 1700rpm, but will it still bog unable to build boost or will the engine have enough grunt to do something?
I'm not terribly familiar with this car when running a bigger turbo. I mean after all, the V8 guys make the Evo sound laggy but the IX *really* surprised me when I drove it. So is this lag with a Black as bad as some guys make it out to be? I'd love to go 2.3 + Black which I hear is really streetable but what about the stock 2.0? What about the HTAGreen at 2300-2600rpm? Does it do anything or am I really looking to lose all my fun without down shifting?
I can be cruising on a 40mph street and just gas it to pass people. It's great for when people quickly change lanes or try to block the fast lane to have enough juice without a down shift.
I know the Red or Black at 2300-2600rpm will feel more like the stock IX turbo at 1700rpm, but will it still bog unable to build boost or will the engine have enough grunt to do something?
I'm not terribly familiar with this car when running a bigger turbo. I mean after all, the V8 guys make the Evo sound laggy but the IX *really* surprised me when I drove it. So is this lag with a Black as bad as some guys make it out to be? I'd love to go 2.3 + Black which I hear is really streetable but what about the stock 2.0? What about the HTAGreen at 2300-2600rpm? Does it do anything or am I really looking to lose all my fun without down shifting?
the break down is like this basically.
stock 9 = 3500
fp green hta = full boost around 3700 rpm
fp red = 4100rpm
fp black = 4300-4400
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the lower rpm you go WOT the longer it will take to spool, but will hit full boost sooner, the later you hit it the quicker response you get..
im extremely picky with response and spool and a 2.3 + fp black is a brutal combination.
my dad owns a c5 vette and he got a ride in my car and he was shocked.. he didnt even know what to think.. he said how does a 2.3L engine have more response then a 5.7L???? his vette feels like a turd compared to my evo and that is just cruising around, no WOT.
with all that said above, you would probably be happy with a fp green hta and even a fp black.. the little sacrifice for upper powerband is well worth it.. unless you spend most your time in low rpm's then fp green if you want 400 on pump
green
i have a green with cams and fuel and even on my **** tune it pulls HARD..untill like 4 grand then detonates but i'm sure when i get meth and a tune it's gonna rip i would highly reccomend the green
While on this subject, I hope someone can answer my question...
I have a FP White Rabbit (not to be confused with the FP white) - It is based off the VIII turbo and has a 10.5 hotside.
I called Brian at FP to see if this can be upgraded to a Green. He said the only way he can do it is he was also provided with a Evo 9 compressor housing. He was busy and I am a n00b, so I didn't bug him too much.
So, I figured I would ask here - Does he just need a 9 compressor cover or does he need the cartridge as well.
On ebay, I found an aftermarket compressor cover for 110 bux (Item number: 180658599297). I can post link, but don't want mods to get pissed. Is that all he needs or does he need the cartridge too?
Any thoughts?
Thanks so much!
I have a FP White Rabbit (not to be confused with the FP white) - It is based off the VIII turbo and has a 10.5 hotside.
I called Brian at FP to see if this can be upgraded to a Green. He said the only way he can do it is he was also provided with a Evo 9 compressor housing. He was busy and I am a n00b, so I didn't bug him too much.
So, I figured I would ask here - Does he just need a 9 compressor cover or does he need the cartridge as well.
On ebay, I found an aftermarket compressor cover for 110 bux (Item number: 180658599297). I can post link, but don't want mods to get pissed. Is that all he needs or does he need the cartridge too?
Any thoughts?
Thanks so much!
Figure out what you wanna do with your car first. In my case I wanted my car tuned for the streets, "spirited driving" and mid to top end power. I don't drag, road race or autox my car at all as I do not have time or money for that anymore. I've opted to go with the 9 turbo on my 2003 Evo with supporting mods (see sig), I'm also running HKS 272's with HKS Cam gears set to -1/+1.
The car puts out 300whp/281trq on 91oct @ 22psi and 333whp/313trq on 100oct @ 26psi tuned on GST's Mustang dyno. Still with the stock airbox with a K&N drop in. I'm pretty happy with the end results, the quick spool is there and mid to top end power is also felt. The only regrets that I have is I should of went with bigger injectors for possible E-85 conversion.
The car puts out 300whp/281trq on 91oct @ 22psi and 333whp/313trq on 100oct @ 26psi tuned on GST's Mustang dyno. Still with the stock airbox with a K&N drop in. I'm pretty happy with the end results, the quick spool is there and mid to top end power is also felt. The only regrets that I have is I should of went with bigger injectors for possible E-85 conversion.
Last edited by bayrider; May 6, 2011 at 03:53 PM.







