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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 07:15 AM
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Originally posted by kevin
How do you know your EVO has front LSD, AYC/ACD?

read your owners book...
Dont have one, got it used. Thats why im asking.
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 04:38 PM
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Less electronic crap = less stuff that can fail.
A lot of highly experienced drivers also agree that less electronic crap gives them more freedom to drive the car as they like.

Although in the Best Motoring video, the Japanese drivers sure did like that AYC/ACD.
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 03:35 AM
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This has been beaten to death over the past year and a half. The best thing I can tell you is that you should have the AYC and ACD removed professionally and sent to me. It's really a terrible thing to have all those electronics helping you (ABS is just the start...you really should go back to a carbureated system and nevermind the A/F ratio controlling or the timing variation or the temperature/mass air sensors and all that CRAP that just could break down) You really don't want boost controlling or detonation sensing retarding or ANY of that electronic "crap" cause it could all break down. Fred Flinstone had the most reliable car around...we should just all go for that.

The same guy who is all against the AYC/ACD is NOT clued in to how it works. Are you also "against" all the aftermarket engine management? I mean who wants electronics?

Get a good old V8 with carbureators!!!!
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 07:43 AM
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A lot of highly experienced drivers also agree that less electronic crap gives them more freedom to drive the car as they like.

Although in the Best Motoring video, the Japanese drivers sure did like that AYC/ACD.
I highlighted the highly experienced drivers .. please note .. it's just like using computers .. if you're not used to using things .. you're pretty much adverse to using it ..

These drivers are so used to be in control that once computers help them to do it better, they find it a hindrance because, other than relearning how to drive again, they have to relearn how to use the ACD/AYC correctly..

One such example is (esp when if you've seen the BM video) as you approach a sharp turn, tendency is brake, and then go into the turn, whereas for ACD/AYC car, you charge to the turn, engine brake to decel and shift the weight of the car forward and then accelerate at what used to be insane entry speeds and let the computer worry about traction and power. Once you tap on the brakes, the computer totally disables ACD/AYC.. Hence experienced drivers just treat it as being useless because they did not learn how to employ the ACD/AYC to their advantage.

Another example is (this is shared on the MLR FYI) launching from a standing start with 1 side of the car on tarmac surface and the other side on gravel .. only the ACD/AYC equipped car can go straight off the launch.
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 07:47 AM
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I think the difference between the VII and the VIII in AYC is that the VIII has S-AYC (super active yaw control) which controls the power from side-to-side (I hope I dont sound like that Top Gear Guy). The VII I think has AYC, but not the improved S-AYC.
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 07:53 AM
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Originally posted by x7eVoLuTiOn7x


Dont have one, got it used. Thats why im asking.
First, if you have the ACD setting switch, that is a good indicator that you have ACD and check the trunks left side acess door if you have a small tank behind the access door....you have AYC as well. You can also check to see if you have fuses in those locations in your fuse boxes as well
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 07:57 AM
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If you want that translated in Tagalog Ill be more than happy to do it for you, you lucky SOB! (j/k)

Hey, can you get us some JDM hookups?!?
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 08:11 AM
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Yes, I do have a small tank on the left side trunk that requires "ATF SPIII FLUID".
So, I guess thats for the AYC then?

JDM parts are alot here, but sometimes you guys got cheaper parts. like the HKS SSQV, here its like around $300. There you can get it for around $250? it all depends on what part you're buying. SOme are cheaper some arent.
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 08:22 AM
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I think Chronohunter is probably the best person to give us an opinion on this. Are the electronics good or bad?

PS Chronohunter I'm back in town. Can't wait to feel the new power that you just got on that monster.
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 09:55 AM
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US version EVO VIII's have a slightly larger fuel tank as a result of the extra space by not having ACY/ATC. 14 gallons vs 12-13 gals.
Still have to fill up too often .

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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by VA Evo VII
US version EVO VIII's have a slightly larger fuel tank as a result of the extra space by not having ACY/ATC. 14 gallons vs 12-13 gals.
Still have to fill up too often .
Evo VIII's have larger tanks than VII's and that includes both JDM and USDM VIII's .. 56Litres vs 48 Litres .. ACD/AYC is not even close to the fuel tank ..
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by gunzo


Evo VIII's have larger tanks than VII's and that includes both JDM and USDM VIII's .. 56Litres vs 48 Litres .. ACD/AYC is not even close to the fuel tank ..
My memory is not what it once was, however I was able to find my March 2003 issue of "Car and Driver" magazine with their preview article of the 2003 Evolution and quote this sentence from that article:

[Japan's much fancier "active yaw control" system with helical front, electronic center, and hydraulic rear differentials got scotched for America to hold down prices and to fit a larger, 14-gallon fuel tank.]

Of course we all know not to rely on the information printed in magazine articles , as my wife's grandmother used to say: "paper will stand still for anything to be printed on it"!

I wish I had the opportunity to drive an EVO VII, notice you are in the military, assume you are overseas where you can own and drive a non-US certified vehicle .
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 07:08 PM
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Originally posted by VA Evo VII


My memory is not what it once was, however I was able to find my March 2003 issue of "Car and Driver" magazine with their preview article of the 2003 Evolution and quote this sentence from that article:

[Japan's much fancier "active yaw control" system with helical front, electronic center, and hydraulic rear differentials got scotched for America to hold down prices and to fit a larger, 14-gallon fuel tank.]

Of course we all know not to rely on the information printed in magazine articles , as my wife's grandmother used to say: "paper will stand still for anything to be printed on it"!

I wish I had the opportunity to drive an EVO VII, notice you are in the military, assume you are overseas where you can own and drive a non-US certified vehicle .
Yep .. you be kinda laughing if you're where I am and reads the crap by the magazines saying this and that about the cars that's not going to US soil

If that statement is true, the JDM Evo would either have the 14 gal tank without ACD/AYC or 12gal tank with them ..gosh .. ain't that a pain

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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by gunzo
I highlighted the highly experienced drivers .. please note .. it's just like using computers .. if you're not used to using things .. you're pretty much adverse to using it ..
You're absolutely right, and I couldn't agree with you more. I spent nearly 4 years knees-deep in racing: everything from autocross and rallycross to road racing at Daytona and Sebring, rallying in New England, all with an FIA-licensed driver who had also karted and done ovaltrack racing. People constantly ask me why, after all that exposure, don't I mod my car more?

The answer has a lot to do with your post above. After those years of changing tires and fuses, agonizing over fuel and mod choices, studying to be a rally navigator, and just providing support, I gathered some interesting opinions about my street cars. I notced that, on the race cars, changes like tires, electronic gadgets, sway bars, etc., were only effective assistants or deterrents for skilled drivers, and even then only made seconds of difference on the race track. Having seen this with my own eyes, I was unable to justify purchasing loads of such modifications for my street car. What is it going to do? Help me get to work 1/2 second quicker? I doubt it. Furthermore, am I an experienced racer? Nope.

That being said, I certainly don't mind drooling over the JDM gadgets that aren't brought to US soil.
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