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Old Jun 6, 2011, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by STi*guy.kiev
They just have some pretty sweet stuff...))
I never said they didn't have some good products...Just fully read the OP before suggesting stuff...He wants a simple setup with quick spool and be able to make 450whp on e85...
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I'd keep the stock Ex Mani, BBK Full and Tomei 270 Procams. Tested by AWDMotorsports and they made some stellar torqe which would be perfect for any RR Car.
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Originally Posted by 06MREvo
I never said they didn't have some good products...Just fully read the OP before suggesting stuff...He wants a simple setup with quick spool and be able to make 450whp on e85...
thats what the products I suggested are about... Im tired of discussing the FACT that there are some minorly faster spooling, restrictive turbos.
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BBK Full -hits peak boost ~ 3800rpm. Spools almost like the stocker.
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Originally Posted by dieselmd
I'd keep the stock Ex Mani, BBK Full and Tomei 270 Procams. Tested by AWDMotorsports and they made some stellar torqe which would be perfect for any RR Car.
I feel this is the SCENARIO WHERE THE TUNED OVERACHIEVED, IF YOU BELIEVE IN the paradox of "OVERPERFORMING"....
yes the bbk full is also one of our favorites, and yes the stock EX mani can be ported and coated to be GREAT but still power is left on the table. Its more of a COST factor, this one.

The Tomeis are some seriously all-round CAMS)
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Originally Posted by Paintballguy
BBK Full -hits peak boost ~ 3800rpm. Spools almost like the stocker.
Look, im not BASHING

I guess I proved that my approach IS a GOOD one, because in 20 minutes this thread has outperformed the majority of empty threads on here...
Its been a WHILE since I've seen a thread which debates one WIN combination with ANOTHER WIN combination...

YES all the mods mentioned are "elite"

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I would do:

-BBK full or
-HTA green or
-EF2 (maybe when more tests are in)

-Porting of the stock exhaust manifolds retaining all heat shields a good factor when road racing keeping underhood temps low.

-GSC S2 cams with spring retainers

- A big budget for tires/pads/oil and seat time.
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Originally Posted by STi*guy.kiev
thats what the products I suggested are about... Im tired of discussing the FACT that there are some minorly faster spooling, restrictive turbos.
So the BBK Full is restrictive??? wtf are you talking about??? Obviously you don't know what your talking about...


Originally Posted by STi*guy.kiev
Look, im not BASHING

I guess I proved that my approach IS a GOOD one, because in 20 minutes this thread has outperformed the majority of empty threads on here...
Its been a WHILE since I've seen a thread which debates one WIN combination with ANOTHER WIN combination...

YES all the mods mentioned are "elite"
Your APPROACH is not good...Your combination is not good...The turbo you are suggesting is NOT proven! The only thing MAP has proven so far is their EF4 turbo can be installed on a built motor evo running E70 and make mid 700whp on kill mode...They even said their warranty won't cover a customer's turbo if it was pushed to the limits they pushed it to...We have YET to see any results from the other 2 turbos...
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all we can do is wait and see...
later...
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With any track/race car the most important thing is reliability. I don't see how anyone can recommend a turbo that literally has not been on the market more than 7 days. The BBK is tried and true, very consistent and has good customer support in the USA.
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Originally Posted by JDMevoBOOST
With any track/race car the most important thing is reliability. I don't see how anyone can recommend a turbo that literally has not been on the market more than 7 days. The BBK is tried and true, very consistent and has good customer support in the USA.
Exactly...thank you...
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Originally Posted by 06MREvo
I am a fan of the BBK series turbos. The BBK turbos are built for the type of racing you do. I vote BBK Full, S2 cams with springs & retainers and a heavily ported stock exhaust manifold. With e85 you shouldn't have a problem hitting 450/400 on that setup...

BTW...car looks great...
2nd that
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Originally Posted by STi*guy.kiev
START in the following order:
APPROPRIATE TYRES (some lightweight 255/40 (semi)slicks)
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255/40 for a road race car
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What class and series are you going to be running in?

Reason I ask is that 450 whp bumps you into a lot of "unlimited" series classes where you are running against cars with much higher HP and fatter wallets
Old Jun 6, 2011, 11:38 AM
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LOL this thread blew up....

Originally Posted by blackenedwings
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With that kind of power what are the mods on your suspension looking like? Some good coilovers, chassis bracing etc will give you the best reductions in time assuming you are already running on competitive tires. If you are serious about it, you should definitely consider getting a custom roll cage built. In addition to the obvious safety advantages its unbelievable how much better the car handles with a cage stiffening up the chassis.
Suspension is good. I just switched to some custom AST's (12k and 14K) Running 275/35/18 Nt-01's tires. I am actually scheduled for a full roll cage in 2 months. A 6 point fully tig welded.

Originally Posted by STi*guy.kiev
Then you gotta step up and start shaving rotating mass if you want more efficiency..
START in the following order:
APPROPRIATE TYRES (some lightweight 255/40 (semi)slicks)
wheels
2pc brake discs
(clutch) flywheel
aluminum driveshaft mod
suspension
chassis mods (FIRST STRIP HER, as far as you like her and only then start swapping stuff for lighter parts..

Tires and Suspension are done. AST's with 275 NT-o1's on Volk Te-37's
Already have 2 piece rotors.
Car has a fresh Exedy clutch in it.
Car is fully gutted already.
Lexan is going in soon.


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