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Old Jun 27, 2011 | 08:48 PM
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Increasing Wastegate Spring from 1bar to 1.5bar

Guys ...I'm running Turbosmart Pro-Gate 50mm wastegate with 1bar spring ...
My tuner suggested me to add another spring to my wastegate so to make it open later around 1.5bar ...
Will it had any advantages/disadvantages ?
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Old Jun 27, 2011 | 09:34 PM
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Wht kinda boost are you running, whats your target? Wastegates opening to early?
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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 01:09 AM
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My car is running around 1.8 bar ...
Mech say by delaying the wastegate opening from 1bar to 1.5bar ...
thus will help spool faster ...
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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 01:43 AM
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what turbo is it?
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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 02:00 AM
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Gt3076R with 0.63 hotside ...
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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 02:19 AM
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if you are questioning your mechanic, you have the wrong mechanic.

will it have any effect on spool? that depends on your boost control setup.
just make sure you adjust your boost control after you have installed the new spring
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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 04:37 AM
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I'm using Vi-pec ecu & its soleniod to control boost ...
My tuner & mech is different people ...
I do trust my tuner ... Just wanna get more opinions ...
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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by boonkae
I'm using Vi-pec ecu & its soleniod to control boost ...
My tuner & mech is different people ...
I do trust my tuner ... Just wanna get more opinions ...
Hahahahahhaha......+1
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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 08:15 AM
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Honestly I think 1.5 bar for the boost you are running is overkill. I'm no expert though.
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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 12:28 PM
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i would say either way you are fine.
you can remove the duty cycle in the ViPec so you dont get tapered boost response (when coming onto boost). You run the risk of overshooting/spiking past your desired boost level though. I'm running a 1bar spring, and running 1.5bar boost perfectly.

Up to you!
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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 07:31 PM
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I run a 1.5 bar spring set in my car and am very happy with it. I have not had a chance to log boost yet but looks like it helps hold 2psi more out the top.

Spool, it would depend on boost controller setup, but normally no. Closed is closed no matter how you look at it.

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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikey@Spec-Ops
I run a 1.5 bar spring set in my car and am very happy with it. I have not had a chance to log boost yet but looks like it helps hold 2psi more out the top.

Spool, it would depend on boost controller setup, but normally no. Closed is closed no matter how you look at it.

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Actually it does kind of matter. The whole point when running a solenoid is to keep the WG SHUT LONGER . It does in fact increase spool up.
Also running a bigger spring or a second spring will def help maintain boost in the upper rpm's and prevent tapering off. Two different scenarios and facts.
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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by HyboostN
Actually it does kind of matter. The whole point when running a solenoid is to keep the WG SHUT LONGER . It does in fact increase spool up.
Also running a bigger spring or a second spring will def help maintain boost in the upper rpm's and prevent tapering off. Two different scenarios and facts.
That is what my tuner say too ...

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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 09:20 PM
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My 38mm dual springs Turbosmart wg holding high boost perfectly, but after the addition, my lowest boost gotta be on 1.4 bar.
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by HyboostN
Actually it does kind of matter. The whole point when running a solenoid is to keep the WG SHUT LONGER . It does in fact increase spool up.
Also running a bigger spring or a second spring will def help maintain boost in the upper rpm's and prevent tapering off. Two different scenarios and facts.
If you read my post, we were not talking about a "solenoid"... We were talking about the WG spring set. For eample, take the boost controller out of the loop all together and run straight wastegate. Will the turbo spool faster on a heavier spring or will the gate just stay closed longer?

I also stated that running a heavier spring will induce higher boost pressure in higher rpms than compared to a lighter spring... So maybe I'm confused as to why you even posted trying to contridict me...

Mikey
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