I have no idea why you would doubt Hollywood and his thousands of miles he has put on his car.

The price of the kit from ERL reflects the more cost effective pistons from weisco. They have a more expensive kit with heavier duty rods/pistons in them. If you want to push it spend the money on them. ERL will put whatever rods/pistons you want in there.

Hollywood has tried to help you 3dman the whole time with your motor. I also know you have said to him before that "yep looks like the whole problem was the injectors".

I just love the lengths you are going to in order to try and discredit them.

I am not saying the 2.3L is a perfect kit, I would never run it up to 8500rpms myself and that is why I didn't do a stroker kit but Hollywood has with far more power than you ever made. They assembled a 2.2L motor for me and I will run that to 9k+rpms as I think overbore is the way to go on the 4b11 but that is my opinion.

With your fueling issues its funny to me that you would even wonder why you had a motor problem. I am not saying at all it was fueling issues that for sure caused it but it has to be a strong culprit as others are not seeing the same problems you did.

I will agree that it would be nice to see some results, but ERL can't make Weisco go any faster. I am sure when they hear back they will let you know.

I totally understand your frustration, I spent 10k plus on a motor and mine only lasted for 2500 miles this year and broke and now I have spent even more money for another new one, but you approached this incorrectly in my opinion and it is understandable why ERL isn't responding to your every need/desire.

However I doubt they are just ignoring you, they just have nothing to report yet prolly.

ERL has been awesome so far for me and I would recommend that for sure.

 

If you have nothing to report........then tell the customer that. Radio silence is in-excusable. I've been waiting on parts for my wife's STi. Everytime i call they tell me what the status is.....even if its the same status.

 

definitely upspec to Wiseco HD's + Ibeams...

The only H's I would run are Carrillo's - coz they are not weaksauce...

 

You are not seeing the whole picture and frankly i am probably not either.

There is some serious drama/bad blood going on and the whole story is not being revealed.

I would agree with you and its great business practice to do so. I am not sticking up for ERL if they truely aren't returning his stuff at all as I don't think that is good for business but from a perspective of how things have went done I could at least understand this.

I personally feel this should be left out of this thread and resolved internally between the two parties rather than coming onto the former to post nonsense about it.

Posting stuff gets no one anywhere and just pisses everyone involved off and creates a lot of drama.

Both parties in this case imo haven't handled this perfectly and now its turned into a **** show and there are tons of people who will read this and be like wtf?

I guess all I care is that people understand ERL does in fact know how to build motors very well...AMS uses them for their sleeving and AMS would not pick just any **** shop if people don't trust ERL directly trust that AMS trusts them if that makes sense lol.

 

Murlo I havent posted anything on this matter for a couple months. I didnt start this thread and only responded after erl responded concerning my motor. Since day one I have had comunication issues and voiced my oppinion. If they cared about me being happy I would be getting weekly updates just to say sorry man we havent heard back from wiesco yet. As far as im concerened they should just send my block back to me so I can start building it. Its plenty clear that they have made there desision without wiesco based on the response they put in this thread so send me my motor with the pistons so i can get it built and send off the pistons. I will still put money on erl changing something with the way they build this kit, oil sqirters, type of pistons, recomended rpm maybe all of the above.

 

These are the pictures of Ryan's rotating assembly-

http://s275.photobucket.com/albums/j...c%20Car%20pix/

 

I see carbon buildup (from burning oil like crazy?), scored pistons, and scored cylinders. Nothing jumps out at me as running lean. I was half expecting something obvious because ERL seems confident that the motor demise was due to running lean. I'm a newb when it comes to the effect on pistons of running lean on E85 though. I guess there is something obvious?

As 3dman1 said before, we were making great power just before he decided to bring it in. What I don't think has been adequately explained by 3dman1 in this thread is the reason the motor was brought in for a check. Just as we had finally tuned the ECU to ignore all the phantom knock and were putting the finishing touches on the tune, the dipstick started blowing out. Then he realized it was starting to burn oil much more than it had just after being built. Other than that, it ran great.

 

80% leak down on #1, 20% on 2 and 3, 60% on 4. I remember the figures but possibly not the exact cylinder.

 

See post 17 for lean on E85 (dangerous lean and then oil consumption issues).

I will look for what a normal piston should look like on E85 at a 12.0 or so.

 

How can the pistons be contacting above the rings on the bore?

Excessive piston to wall clearance?

 

How bad is the out of roundness....I can't tell by the pics but I'm assuming the heavy scoring is on the thrust side. If it is I would lean toward piston to wall clearance. Again this is just from looking at pics and not knowing the measurements of the holes.
mikey

 

There are also other H beam rods that are very strong and realiable. Arrow Precision from UK are top notch rods for example.

 

Curious and how this has been resolved?

 

3dman1 just heard back from ERL today. I'll leave it up to him to explain the details, but it was resolved in his favor due to some less than optimal hardware that ERL unknowningly used. I expect that we will be hearing other people chime in on this as well.

 

no bueno