EVO VIII vs e46 M3
Dec 30, 2003, 03:50 PM
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the more i think about it... i think you'll lose.. 2 km is along way.. i know that it took forever it seemed to get my car up to 150.... but that was stock.. anyhow like everybody else has been saying.. around 130 i imagine he'll pull on you...
Dec 30, 2003, 04:17 PM
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NICE: Unorthodox SS Pulley Set...
Originally posted by Rudy
Volcan, how do you like the pulleys?? I've been thinking about getting them but I'm just not sure. I haven't heard enough about them on the evo's.
Volcan, how do you like the pulleys?? I've been thinking about getting them but I'm just not sure. I haven't heard enough about them on the evo's.
The actual reason I bought them was because of my previous experience (3-years, overseas) with a NA 1991 4G63 2.0 DOHC Galant (much weaker engine than today's 4G63 EVO).
Exactly as exepcted, car idles sliky-smooth, it accelerates smoothly, and quicker. At no-boost throttle, difference is felt when taking off, in the low-mid range.
Once boost is one, you need G-Tech or Dyno to feel difference.
The entire SS pulley set is plug-and-play, including the Cam sprockets. The machining is simply superb, flawless, and you won't believe you ugly and heavy the stock pulley is, when compared to Unorthodox's set (on your hands). No wonder why they use a mediocre "rubber ring" on stock's heavy and unispiring piece of metal.
Highly recommended, even after hearing Shiv's doubts and concerns, when I spoke to him.
FYI: I am in the Ft. Lauderdale area. Whenever you want (after Jan. 11th), we can get together to test our cars.
Happy racing,
Vulcan
Dec 30, 2003, 10:20 PM
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In case anyone is interested... I uploaded a video of an SMG M3 doing 0-157
http://jcolem3.netfirms.com/images/0-157mph.wmv
Also have one of my old E36 m3 with conforti chip, active autowerks exhaust and intake. Here is the video
http://jcolem3.netfirms.com/images/0100mph.MPG
http://jcolem3.netfirms.com/images/0-157mph.wmv
Also have one of my old E36 m3 with conforti chip, active autowerks exhaust and intake. Here is the video
http://jcolem3.netfirms.com/images/0100mph.MPG
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Dec 30, 2003, 11:16 PM
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45s to almost 160MPH, I dont think Evo gonna win, especially after its gonna go to 5th gear, best bet put some 104+ octane in the car and pray, (nos if u can get it installed quickly)
Haraszo przyjacielu!!!!!!!!
Haraszo przyjacielu!!!!!!!!
Dec 31, 2003, 06:38 AM
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Re: EVO VIII vs e46 M3
Originally posted by Yaroslav
My mods: B&B TurboBack(without any cats), Ralliart flat intake, Clutch master stage 3,EBC AVC-R, HKS BOV,HKS IC piping. Is there enouth to beat m3?
My mods: B&B TurboBack(without any cats), Ralliart flat intake, Clutch master stage 3,EBC AVC-R, HKS BOV,HKS IC piping. Is there enouth to beat m3?
Dec 31, 2003, 06:47 AM
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Umm I ran a modded E46 m3 with 3 heads in my car vs his 1 philipino self. From what I saw and heard he had an exhaust and an intake (could have had a chip). Car looked great, it was lowed with a carbon spittler in the front.
Now my passengers were my girl and my 200+ pound friend. My Evo is 310whp (dyno proven) and we stayed even until about 130 when I started to reel him in REALLY REALLY slow. The second time we raced he started inching me at 120. Those cars have sick sick top end. I would have RAPED him from a start but at those speeds good freaking luck. If I were alone I would have won but DAMN it was close.
I don't know how the guy above me SMOKED an e46 with just minor upgrades in 4th and 5th none the less
Now my passengers were my girl and my 200+ pound friend. My Evo is 310whp (dyno proven) and we stayed even until about 130 when I started to reel him in REALLY REALLY slow. The second time we raced he started inching me at 120. Those cars have sick sick top end. I would have RAPED him from a start but at those speeds good freaking luck. If I were alone I would have won but DAMN it was close.
I don't know how the guy above me SMOKED an e46 with just minor upgrades in 4th and 5th none the less
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Dec 31, 2003, 07:06 AM
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Originally posted by Hooptie157
I don't know how the guy above me SMOKED an e46 with just minor upgrades in 4th and 5th none the less
I don't know how the guy above me SMOKED an e46 with just minor upgrades in 4th and 5th none the less
Dec 31, 2003, 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by Yaroslav
Will cams, camshifts,manifold,Xede help me in the battle? I can cancel the race for a week.
Will cams, camshifts,manifold,Xede help me in the battle? I can cancel the race for a week.
I played with a z06 last week and neither one of us pulled on each other from 40mph to 100mph. Those cars trap 115 stock so I'm pretty sure he was going to rape me after 100.
Dec 31, 2003, 10:43 AM
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You *do not *need them...
Originally posted by Yaroslav
Will cams, camshifts,manifold,Xede help me in the battle? I can cancel the race for a week.
Will cams, camshifts,manifold,Xede help me in the battle? I can cancel the race for a week.
...Yaros:
You *can* beat the M3 by simply outperforming his current power-to-weight ratio. In other words, if you bring your flywheel power close to 340-350, and (at least) a flat top-end HP curve, you *will* certainly beat him because you are 200-250 pounds lighter (car-to-car).
Therefore, camshafts and all the extra paraphernalia you mention are quiet unnecessary.
You only need a pair of camshaft sprockets (or gears), a decent 3" Turbo Back (HiFlo cat or catless), and Xede (for integated turbo, spark and fuel management). That's all.
Anyway, go for this preliminary run as your baseline (so you come back and compare results as you tune and extact more HP from the car). That's what I did with a friend Porsche's, when I was close to stock (great top-end, by the way...)
Kind regards,
Vulcan