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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 06:59 AM
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what am i looking at here binky lol
isnt this by the firewall?
I think it's the powder coated mounting bracket. Turned out well.
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by bnr34rb26dett
what am i looking at here binky lol
isnt this by the firewall?
Yes, this specific bracket is by the firewall. I was just use this picture as an example to show what the brackets looked like after I powder coated them. Believe it or not, powder coating isn't all that hard.

Rough powder coating howto:
You need some type of media blaster to clean the parts, an oven, a powder coating system, and a face mask.
I used the glass bead machine at work to clean the parts and also borrowed an oven from them. I bought the powder coating system and powder for 60$ from Harbor Freight. I coated the parts and baked them in my garage. I powder coated every bracket I could get my hands on while the engine was out of the car.

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I think it's the powder coated mounting bracket. Turned out well.
Exactly! Thanks


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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by binky
Yes, this specific bracket is by the firewall. I was just use this picture as an example to show what the brackets looked like after I powder coated them. Believe it or not, powder coating isn't all that hard.

Rough powder coating howto:
You need some type of media blaster to clean the parts, an oven, a powder coating system, and a face mask.
I used the glass bead machine at work to clean the parts and also borrowed an oven from them. I bought the powder coating system and powder for 60$ from Harbor Freight. I coated the parts and baked them in my garage. I powder coated every bracket I could get my hands on while the engine was out of the car.



Exactly! Thanks


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it does look great. but is this the actual mount for the oil cooler? thats what im confused about lol

since installation link from MAP was broken, here is another
http://www.maperformance.com/blog/ca...ations/page/2/

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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by bnr34rb26dett
it does look great. but is this the actual mount for the oil cooler? thats what im confused about lol

since installation link from MAP was broken, here is another
http://www.maperformance.com/blog/ca...ations/page/2/
Nope, that is not the MAP bracket. That is an OEM bracket for the brake lines that I cleaned up and powder coated. I used that picture as an example of how the brackets looked powder coated because I don't have a picture of the MAP brackets handy.


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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by binky
Nope, that is not the MAP bracket. That is an OEM bracket for the brake lines that I cleaned up and powder coated. I used that picture as an example of how the brackets looked powder coated because I don't have a picture of the MAP brackets handy.


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thank makes sense haha thanks. now that i know that MAP utilizes stock brackets, i might go STM and save significantly more money....
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 11:34 AM
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Here is the pic of my STM oilcooler using stock mounting brackets. I used 2 little pieces of 1" square aluminum and two longer bolts. You can see them in the upper right of the pic. Notice the 45 degree instead of a 90 on the bottem.

PS. I also don't want to hear about the top hose being too long.
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by bnr34rb26dett
what am i looking at here binky lol
isnt this by the firewall?
He is showing you the finish of the ABS pump bracket. That's the same finish he has on the oil cooler brackets now
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 11:55 AM
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Just curious why anyone cares about the finish of a bracket?
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bnr34rb26dett
thank makes sense haha thanks. now that i know that MAP utilizes stock brackets, i might go STM and save significantly more money....
MAP uses the stock location with part of the stock bracket, however there are two brackets that they made in order to make the Setrab cooler fit.

FWIW, MAP's oil cooler, is a better oil cooler. It's also more expensive since it bolts right up as opposed to STM's which requires a bit more work.


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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 12:17 PM
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Here is a pic of my car racing up 7.5 miles of uphill without an oilcooler. Oil temps were never affected. Now i wouldnt' run any 20 min races without on but i think the idea of better or worse is not really all that important unless you guys are doing some serious racing. (that being said, B&M has been doing this for alot longer then most company's) I think people think if it dosnt' have an exotic name that it isn't good (why do you need an oilcooler that is made in Sweden?). We do still make some good ol stuff right here in the USA!

As easy as it was to make the stock brackets works. I think that the stock location sucks for anyone that might crash once in a while. I will be mounting mine up by the rad, like in that other thread.
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 01:53 PM
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have you noticed any significant cooling gain with this setup bink? or anybody else?
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by bnr34rb26dett
have you noticed any significant cooling gain with this setup bink? or anybody else?
I am also interested, it is hard to justify buying a product based on ease of install.
What were your temps beforehand?
Does the oil cooler keep temps down or prevent them from raising for a longer time?
Is the stock oil cooler good or garbage?
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 10:18 AM
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FWIW the setrab unit that is in the MAP kit is just a rebadged derale cooler

http://www.jegs.com/i/Derale/259/52510/10002/-1

$165

ams also uses this core in their kits
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Gsst98
I am also interested, it is hard to justify buying a product based on ease of install.
What were your temps beforehand?
Does the oil cooler keep temps down or prevent them from raising for a longer time?
Is the stock oil cooler good or garbage?
all these questions depend on how you are driving the car, the oem unit is a good one if you are driving on the street, autox'ing, drag racing ect.

It is pretty easy to overheat the oil when you are on the track with the stock unit.

when i had the stock unit, i could drive the car on the track for about 10 minutes before i had to back off and take some cool down laps. I wouldn't let the oil temp get over 270*.

now that I installed the larger cooler (same core as MAP/AMS), i do not need to take any cooldown laps, although the longest ive driven the car on the track at one time is 30 minutes.
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 10:23 AM
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Ya can just buy the cooler and get the hose and right size fittings and its the same thing. Just get a good core. Save $ and have a great cooler
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