Please help. Random Knock.
Please help. Random Knock.
Good afternoon everyone. Like the title suggests I am having issues with random knock.
I am unsure if it is phantom knock or real knock. I will list my mods to see if that helps you guys get an idea.
*Apexi Air intake
*ETS 2.5 hard pipes
*TurboXS front mount
*HKS 272 cams
*Spoolin up COP Kit
*FIC 850cc injectors
*Halman Pro MBC
*Megan O2 housing
*QTP downpipe with electronic cutout Version 2
*Cobb Test Pipe
*HKS Hi Power catback
*New Throttle body shaft seals
*Tuned for 24lbs by CBRD (when Chad tuned the car he noted that it seemed knock prone under the lower rpms).
I have done a compression test all four cylinders show 153psi.
I have done a boost leak test up to 25psi with no issues.
The knock is always around 2,500rpm-3500rpm and about 150-160 load. The knock doesn't always happen.
I have tried messing with the timing and fuel many times.
Some times at an idle I get a rattle of my exhaust rubbing against something...could if be doing the same while I am partial throttle and it is sending a false engine noise signal to the knock sensor? When the knock occurs I do not feel and performance reduction or hesitation.
Please give me your ideas/thoughts on what I can try to determine the state of this knock.
Thanks for your time.
I am unsure if it is phantom knock or real knock. I will list my mods to see if that helps you guys get an idea.
*Apexi Air intake
*ETS 2.5 hard pipes
*TurboXS front mount
*HKS 272 cams
*Spoolin up COP Kit
*FIC 850cc injectors
*Halman Pro MBC
*Megan O2 housing
*QTP downpipe with electronic cutout Version 2
*Cobb Test Pipe
*HKS Hi Power catback
*New Throttle body shaft seals
*Tuned for 24lbs by CBRD (when Chad tuned the car he noted that it seemed knock prone under the lower rpms).
I have done a compression test all four cylinders show 153psi.
I have done a boost leak test up to 25psi with no issues.
The knock is always around 2,500rpm-3500rpm and about 150-160 load. The knock doesn't always happen.
I have tried messing with the timing and fuel many times.
Some times at an idle I get a rattle of my exhaust rubbing against something...could if be doing the same while I am partial throttle and it is sending a false engine noise signal to the knock sensor? When the knock occurs I do not feel and performance reduction or hesitation.
Please give me your ideas/thoughts on what I can try to determine the state of this knock.
Thanks for your time.
what amount of knock counts are you seeing?
the 4G63 is prone to that area being a little "noisey" the concern is whether its pulling ignition advance-
I dont recall all the details (we do lots of tunes yikes)-
cheers
cb
the 4G63 is prone to that area being a little "noisey" the concern is whether its pulling ignition advance-
I dont recall all the details (we do lots of tunes yikes)-
cheers
cb
I get random knock @90 load 2-3 times a week nbg. I'm know cbrd's tuning is silky smooth just make sure you aren't jumping timing too much. And Maybe its some really noisey lifters?
@ Chad- It ranges from 1-4 counts of knock. I havent noticed anything as far as it changing the ignition advance. I will do a data log tomorrow after work and see what I find out. It is never the same and never quite in the same spot. Most of the time it doesn't knock. I am in no way assuming its the tune or pointing fingers, I was just hoping for some help identifying the cause.
I am very happy with the tune I have it is very smooth all the way to redline...even with the random knock.
@b16a- I have thought that it may be lifter noise because mine make quite a bit of noise under low rpms/idle. I have bled them again to make sure they are where okay after the cam install...but that was a while ago.
I appreciate the quick reply's. I am sorry I was not around a computer to get back to you guys sooner.
I am very happy with the tune I have it is very smooth all the way to redline...even with the random knock.@b16a- I have thought that it may be lifter noise because mine make quite a bit of noise under low rpms/idle. I have bled them again to make sure they are where okay after the cam install...but that was a while ago.
I appreciate the quick reply's. I am sorry I was not around a computer to get back to you guys sooner.
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Sorry I was not able to do the logs yesterday. i ended up having to work a double so I didn't get out until 11pm. The joys of working for the state police lol.
I am seeing anything from 1-4 counts of knock. It is never the same and never quite in the same spot.
I am seeing anything from 1-4 counts of knock. It is never the same and never quite in the same spot.





