BOOST Taper QUESTION.
what I was trying to say is that boost is basically excess air that is NOT consumed by the engine. If you make your engine breath better so that it can consume more air at redline then your boost at redline should go down assuming your already maxxed out on your wastegate duty cycle. Your goal should not be producing more boost, it should be producing more power and more boost does not always equal more power.
thanks guy i did the test a while back, already replaces the tbshaft seals and i can hold 27lbs in the system with basicly no leaks. when i say basicly no leaks if i check the pressure a couple minutes later its at like 25 so its not fast enough of a leak to really sacrifice any while making power.
go back to the stock exhaust and you should have more than 26 no problem.
The less restriction you have the less boost your going to hold up top, boost is air pressure built up from air NOT going into the engine, so if the engine breathes better it will consume more air...and as such you'll make less boost. Obviously this can be overcome to a point by adjusting the boost controller etc but once its fully closed and the turbo cannot physically produce more boost,....your done.
I can hold 23.5 psi at 7000rpm with my mods, thats after peaking at 26. When I install cams I'm sure I will taper even more, but I'll be making more power so I don't care.
The less restriction you have the less boost your going to hold up top, boost is air pressure built up from air NOT going into the engine, so if the engine breathes better it will consume more air...and as such you'll make less boost. Obviously this can be overcome to a point by adjusting the boost controller etc but once its fully closed and the turbo cannot physically produce more boost,....your done.
I can hold 23.5 psi at 7000rpm with my mods, thats after peaking at 26. When I install cams I'm sure I will taper even more, but I'll be making more power so I don't care.

a restrictive hotside which is the exhaust will cause more backpressure which in turn will not allow your turbine to spool as freely to creat the boost pressure on the cold/intake side. iv always heard you want the exhaust as free flowing as you can on a turbocharged car. a difference in turbo design or its housings are the cause in loss of or addition to restriction on both sides.
some of what you are saying is deff true but in some instances does not agree with the simplicity of flow
thanks for the input
Last edited by 4g63kid; Dec 22, 2011 at 03:57 PM.
lol boost is anything above atmospheric pressure in the manifold. example..
if atmospheric pressure on earth at sea level is say around 14.7lbs and theres a car next to you there will be that much pressure in the intake manifold. so the turbo will actually have to make 15.7psi in the intake manifold to register 1lb of boost on a gauge. boost is air pressure on top of atmospheric pressure.
Is there any specific reason you want to hold 25 all the way to redline? 25 psi at peak torque is one thing, but 25 at 6k+ rpm is out of the turbo efficiency range, you'd likely make more (consistent!) power by allowing the boost to tapper and running more timing instead.
guess i should have worded that differently but im trying to hold 25 through my heaviest tq range i dont mind the taper up top as much
thanks for the info.
what I was trying to say is that boost is basically excess air that is NOT consumed by the engine. If you make your engine breath better so that it can consume more air at redline then your boost at redline should go down assuming your already maxxed out on your wastegate duty cycle. Your goal should not be producing more boost, it should be producing more power and more boost does not always equal more power.
the problem with runing boost up top is the efficiency range of the turbos. another aspect of this is that that the air gets too hot and not dense enough to really make useable power at those rpms.
buuut with an efficent way of cooling the air and being able to use it then running a specific number all the way to redline instead of a taper will make more power..
basicly this is just changing the tq curve from a specific range to a wider range that carries to redline.
your right with the more boost does not always equal more power but when your using boost to make power thaats what we want to accomplish
thanks for the input
[quote=sktng22;9841720]my guage is 100% correct. 1.8 bar.=26psi. also showed on the computer i was being tuned on. its not wrong lol[/quote
hmmm interesting. thats the first iv heard
maybe its an viii thing
hmmm interesting. thats the first iv heard
maybe its an viii thing
I have the opposite problem. My boost doesn't taper, currently 25psi, yet I get knock up top and my timing is already really low. I figure that having the boost taper would be better for my set up as I can get rid of the knock and maybe get some more timing. I have a Greddy Profec B Spec 2 with gain at it lowest setting which is 5%. How can I get my set up to taper, unwind the wastegate actuator?
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