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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 04:30 PM
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Can't get engine and tranny separated.

I have the engine and transmission out of the car and... i tried to pull them apart before disengaging the throw out bearing.. is this a big no-no?

I can't seem to get it disengaged
and i'm at my wits end i'm afraid and i don't know what to do.

I've done some searching and would really like to not have to take the pressure plate off inside of the bellhousing and even if i did i would still need to get it off...


ANY help would be greatly appreciated.


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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 04:32 PM
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Yes you need to release the throwout bearing or the trans will not separate from the engine.
http://www.evomoto.com/tech_articles..._article_id=27
Look at step number 47

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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by wizzo 8
Yes you need to release the throwout bearing or the trans will not separate from the engine.
http://www.evomoto.com/tech_articles..._article_id=27
Look at step number 47
I have tried this many times and either i don't understand it, I am doing something wrong, or i shouldn't have tried to pull them apart first
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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 04:41 PM
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Yes its not easy but it is easier when its in the car. GL
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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by wizzo 8
Yes its not easy but it is easier when its in the car. GL
Why would it be easier when it's in the car?



Anyway does anyone have any suggestions or knowledge on this matter??

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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 09:07 PM
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I have found it easier with 2 people. Screw driver from the top and one from the bottem. Sometimes they can be a pain.
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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 10:36 PM
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Be very patient. It will release eventually.
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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 10:56 PM
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Took me 2 hours to get mine off last time. And thats the 2nd time I did it. It helped to use a very large craftsman screw driver that has a square rod going down to the tip. I then used a crescent wrench to help twist with more force while pushing in on the fork. You can also try to turn the engine to try a different spot on the throwout. Be sure you have it in the correct groove.
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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 11:12 PM
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when you release the TOB push the clutch fork to engage the TOB. slip the screw driver in between the wedge collar and the TOB while tryn to hold the fork in place twist and pop it off. it sounds harder then it really is.
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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 11:31 PM
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when you release the TOB push the clutch fork to engage the TOB. slip the screw driver in between the wedge collar and the TOB while tryn to hold the fork in place twist and pop it off. it sounds harder then it really is.
^^^^ this is exactly what you have to do. Get a wide blade screwdriver and even another person to push the fork . Get between the collar and rotate 1/4 with the screw driver. It pops off.

<<C>> CLUTCH RELEASE BEARING SEPARATION
CAUTION
If it is hard to turn the screwdriver (to pry off the release
bearing), remove the screwdriver once and repeat the
above procedure after pushing the release fork fully in the
direction a two to three times. Forcibly prying can cause
the release bearing to be damaged.
1. Remove the cover from the service hole in the clutch
housing.
2. While pushing the release fork by hand in the direction A,
insert a flap-tip screwdriver between the release bearing and
the wedge collar.
CAUTION
Be sure to push the release fork in the direction A before
inserting a screwdriver.
3. Separate the release bearing from the wedge collar by
prying with the screwdriver (turning the screwdriver grip
90
°).

NOTE: The release fork is forced to move fully in the direc-
tion B by the return spring as soon as if is separated from
the wedge collar.

22A-24 of the manual.

www.evoscan.com- manuals.

I never have had problems disengaging one. Installing yes, the stupid clip falls in.

Also make sure you removed the stub shaft from the drivers side that connects the trans to transfer case.

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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 06:23 AM
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Pull the fork toward the slave cylinder and then https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...t-bearing.html
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 07:26 AM
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Just unbolt the pressure plate from the flywheel via the fork hole. It's that much easier and will actually save time from fighting with the TOB.
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 07:56 PM
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Large Craftsmen Flat head screw driver +1000000


DO THIS:

Push engine trans back together
Remove Slave
Push clutch fork towards the TOB as hard as you can
then place the aforementioned LARGE FLAT HEAD between the fork and the TOB
Push the the screwdriver inbetween them while slowly letting the fork back off
PRESTO TOB OFF
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Piro Fyre
Just unbolt the pressure plate from the flywheel via the fork hole. It's that much easier and will actually save time from fighting with the TOB.
This!

I have had to do this twice....
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 08:39 PM
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just keep trying tok me 45 mins to pop that B(*^$
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