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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 09:44 AM
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I would be freaking out right now if I were you. Best of luck
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 09:51 AM
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Don't quote me but isn't the factory crank nitratred? Then when polished it takes the nitrated finish off?

If I'm wrong correct me as I have no idea lmao.. Also where can you get a crank nitrated?
-Peter

Originally Posted by 94AWDcoupe
contamination in the oil will kill rod bearings quite easily. very difficult to get all the particles out after the first failure. oil coolers reused causes it most of time. but reusing the head without cleaning it will do it as well. virtually any reused part can hide particles that dont come out even with cleaning. that loosen and get you later.
shame more builders dont recommend Nitrided cranks in their builds. The slightest knock on untreated crank will damage the journal. With treated crank you can drop the pan and install fresh bearings and you are ready to rock. sounds like two engine rebuilds could have been avoided if they had been built with nitrided crank. I had a customer call me after his first engine build had an oil change. car came back to me with only 30psi pressure and very loud knock. Saw the pan had been used to jack car up. starved pickup tube of oil. car was driven two weeks on very low oil pressure. Pulled pan to find bearing completely wiped. car ran perfect with just new bearings swapped in.
heres a picture of the bearing shells from that engine.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by hamx0r
If you never replaced your oil cooler after the first spun bearing that is more than likely your problem...
filter housing, oil lines, ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT HAD OIL GOING THROUGH IT!!! there are also access holes in the crankshaft and the cylinder head that need to be cleaned throughout. id find a new builder, because any smart one would have told you all of the above. What break in oil are you using?
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by GG06MR
That didn't happen until after the first two failures.
Then explain the last failure...
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by n2oiroc
you ran the buschur engine on 10W30 in winter? i dont know what he recommends, but 10W30 is awful thin for a built engine with loose clearances.
i agree with him im pretty sure your suppose to run 20w50 in his motors all the time including winter
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 11:44 AM
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Not liking the fact that it had 10w30 in it. I would of went with a 15W40 if it saw temps under 32 degrees on a regular basis, that's about it.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by n2oiroc
you ran the buschur engine on 10W30 in winter? i dont know what he recommends, but 10W30 is awful thin for a built engine with loose clearances.
5w40 in all my engines all year round and all types of engines from road to full blown race engines.

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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark S
5w40 in all my engines all year round and all types of engines from road to full blown race engines.

Mark
i would never run any 30wt oil in a built engine like that. i imagine the rods are set somewhere around .002"-.0025", thats not going to end well with such a thin oil at higher rpm's.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 12:15 PM
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Then explain the last failure...
I can't. I just know that the oil cooler/cooler delete doesn't explain all three failures.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 12:17 PM
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To the OP....have you ever sent off any samples to Blackstone for testing? If so, results?
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 12:20 PM
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youre doing something wrong for sure....

my roommate killed 3 sr20's last year, 2 of them built. but, he is a bit of a meathead and totally know why it happened.

i agree that 10-30 shouldnt have been used.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 12:36 PM
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Yes I checked it every half tank of gas. I was ready to finish by build also.. hta86 on e85 .

Originally Posted by badev0
Did you check your oil often with the Buschur motor? Those motors consume a good amount of oil and have to be checked often (they are are built pretty loose compared to a stock motor with tight clearances). Also, did you replace your oil cooler before putting in your new motor?

Either way, sorry to hear about your luck
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 12:38 PM
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Car is babied to and from work, I usually do one 2-3rd gear pull each way. Sometimes a 1-4th. Depends if I am in good mood or not . I can't shift past 8k because of act! I have rev limiter set 8900. I have never hit that limit. I Have reved near that in 4th though. I may do a 2.3...

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Yikes. I'd have a tough time not just pushing the car off of a cliff after all of that, let alone selling it and building something else. How are you driving it? Mashing the throttle all day every day? How high do you rev it out? 8,000+? If you're hard on it, and your goal is a 500 whp daily, then I think you'd be better off building a 2.3L or 2.4L, then you can run fewer revs and less boost to achieve your HP goals, and SHOULD experience greater engine longevity.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 12:39 PM
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Oil cooler has been deleted before the build.

Originally Posted by GG06MR
That didn't happen until after the first two failures.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 12:44 PM
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yes same block, no oil pressure gauge and turbo seems fine. It may need rebuild I know it has some miles on it. I know alot of people say buschur engine are built loose and will consume oil. But I would consume half a quart a week. I was averaging around 400 miles a week. The more I would get on it, the worse it would consume. I changed plugs not to long ago and the plugs looked great. They didn't look as if any oil was getting in the combustion chamber.


Originally Posted by JohnBradley
Has this always been the same block? I find it hard to believe that much hardware problems isnt related to some hardware issue, i.e. mainline on the block, oil galley, etc.

Do you have an oil pressure gauge on the car? If so what has it been reading? What does the turbo look like?

Aaron
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