Do these turbos really spool late? Im full boltons on e85 and m2 cams. I ask because i can pick up the full kit for around 900 and i woul like to make 450+.. Right now i make 400hp stock turbo. U guys think this would b a boring street turbo i like HARD hit from turbos the 16g dnt do that

 

They do hit harder than the factory, but that "hard" hit feeling really comes from a steep power curve created by a larger turbine that may take alittle while to spool and then boom... There is the power. Get a 35r if you want a decent balance of spool, power, and reliability with that hard hit. I made over 500 whp on stock block on 93oct on a safe tune with 3000rpms of full boost w/o any issues... What more can you ask for.

Btw, if your stuck on the 3076 idea I would not recommend the ATP setup. I had one on my old vw 1.8t and the hot side cracked within 6mo of use... They are known for poor castings too. With the Hta and gtx versions pumping out great numbers I would spend the extra couple hundred and buy the better turbo.

 

I wouldn't mess with any ATP kit. An old FP Green can get you 450 and will hit hard for sure.

 

I run one on my talon and yes as stated above it does hit hard. I have the S cover with the 4 inch inlet and intake and it isn't bad. I made 450 whp mustang on 27 lbs of boost on 93. Tune could be better and things are gonna get changed on the car being I have some restrictions. On the street the car isn't bad but it is a bit laggy but Idk if that is the tune or what. All in all it is a good turbo, but if you wanted to get the power from a stock size turbo I agree go with stock appearing. This is also with a mitsu flange not a T series as well. If your only looking to spend 900 bucks then yeah its a good turbo for the money.

 

I mean its between a oldschool green or the atp 3076 both same price used.. Just want 450hp+ and my rods to stay happy

 

The 3076 is going to be better then, it'll spool slower and won't have tons of torque that will make the rods fail. If you decided to convert it to T3, I know a forum member selling 2 T31 housings for a good price.

 

I wasn't too impressed with the old green but I absolutely hate anything from atp. I whooped up on my roomates gt35r kit when I was making 350awhp. Look for an old fp red if you are on a budget. My friend made 475whp on it and the kick was nice.

 

I don't see why people are bashing AGP. Because you beat up on a guy with a 35r don't mean ****. Why do you people fail to realize there are other factors that goes along with this. How about the tunes, driving skills, power to weight, and the list goes on. Sure when your using a smaller frame turbo that isn't as laggy your gonna prob win in a short race. To say there products are junk because of this or that is just obsurd. A lot of factors are gonna be what is in your setup, your goals, what a/r you decide to go with and what flange you plan on running on the mani.

 

AGP or ATP?

 

better cams out there than m2 s

 

Easy keyboard warrior. If you were around when these kits were popular you would know how crappy they are. My roomates car was almost identical mod to mod with mine plus he had an aem with loads more time into his tune. He made around 450awhp and spooled around 5500rpms. Mind you this was back in 2006 when options were very limited. The design is extremely laggy and restrictive. Their is a reason why nobody rocks atp anymore. Area under the curve>laggy turbo's. Also don't mistake the old kit with the new kit. The old kit had the problems and the new turbo's weren't given the time of day. Nobody wants ATP in their mod list.....NOBODY!

 

Sorry ATP hahaha my bad.

 

I do have an ATP setup on my talon and I spool no where around 5500rpms on a 2 liter. Mind you that it is a 3076r rather then a 35r kit as you suggested. I hit full boost by 4200 in my car. And this is true about the old and new kits. I am glad you said something about that.

 

The kit on your talon isn't as restrictive as the twinscroll to singlescroll horror show that was the ATP kit. Add a larger turbo on it and that becomes a larger bottleneck.

 

Correct its the single dsm flange. But I was always under the impression that the twin scroll was always better reguardless. But I get what your saying.