6262 CEA or HTA86
the cea 6262 and the old 6262 have the same size wheels correct in the same housing? If so I wouldnt see a huge differfene in spool if the only thing that changed was the center cartridge? There isnt a difference in the FP black and dbb version besides transient responce correct? Same theory?
yes the old 6262 and new 6262 CEA are the same sizes. BUT the CEA turbine is lighter, more efficient then the old turbine. they claim the same spoolup but 30/40 more HP
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more laggy then the hta 3586, I would say ask DB or AWD or STM they seem to think the 3586 is a better turbo then the 6262 they deal with set ups more often.
I make over 500/500 by 4500 but its not a fair comparison I am on a 2.4. I am impressed with your graph though I have been in 2 6262 2.0 and the car would barely move before 5250-5500.
Still no answer to my question of the 6262 was so great why did they redesign it with the 6266?
Everyone is going to have there opinion I did allot of research before I purchased the hta86 and I bought what I bought this thread could go on forever. 6262 guys will defend what they bought hta guys will defend the hta. This was compared before on evom and posted in by DB and AWD both chose the hta.
I make over 500/500 by 4500 but its not a fair comparison I am on a 2.4. I am impressed with your graph though I have been in 2 6262 2.0 and the car would barely move before 5250-5500.
Still no answer to my question of the 6262 was so great why did they redesign it with the 6266?
Everyone is going to have there opinion I did allot of research before I purchased the hta86 and I bought what I bought this thread could go on forever. 6262 guys will defend what they bought hta guys will defend the hta. This was compared before on evom and posted in by DB and AWD both chose the hta.
they didnt re design it to the 6266. there was the 6262 and 6265. they made new 62 and 66mm turbine wheels. so the real answer should be how does the 6262CEA compare to the HTA86. being the HTA86 is the Garrett 62mm turbine wheel. PTE's older 6262 Non CEA spooled up slower then the HTA86 and from what shops claim made a smudge less HP.
I'm looking for billet cea 6262 NOT the old ones but that one dyno sheet that was posted with the old 62 on a 2.0 helps because I've heard that the new cea technology reduces lag by 500 rpms plus i'm going 2.3 and doing all of the little things like coating the manifold and turbo to get the spool time down as low as possible.
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the cea 6262 and the old 6262 have the same size wheels correct in the same housing? If so I wouldnt see a huge differfene in spool if the only thing that changed was the center cartridge? There isnt a difference in the FP black and dbb version besides transient responce correct? Same theory? I am asking the question because I can not find much info on the cea version.
he's non cea
They didn't redesign it. The reason why I kept this thing going is that I'm asking for a comparison between the newer billet cea 6262 vs hta86.
THANK YOU! that is the question I'm asking
I'm looking for billet cea 6262 NOT the old ones but that one dyno sheet that was posted with the old 62 on a 2.0 helps because I've heard that the new cea technology reduces lag by 500 rpms plus i'm going 2.3 and doing all of the little things like coating the manifold and turbo to get the spool time down as low as possible.
THANK YOU! that is the question I'm asking
I'm looking for billet cea 6262 NOT the old ones but that one dyno sheet that was posted with the old 62 on a 2.0 helps because I've heard that the new cea technology reduces lag by 500 rpms plus i'm going 2.3 and doing all of the little things like coating the manifold and turbo to get the spool time down as low as possible.
Your in florida to once you get it done we can get together and see the difference. I would do the hta 3582 on a 2.3 or the hta 3794. Just depends on what you are looking for. If you want to go for a ride in my car let me know I promiss you it will make up your mind really quick. The above pull was at 32lbs btw. You will have allot of fun with any stroker if tq is what you are looking for.
IMO the PTE new CEA turbine is better then garretts and FP's HTA 7 blade compressor wheels are better then PTE's 6 blade compressor wheels. i wish we could buy the 6262/6266 and have a FP HTA compressor wheel put on it or the 6766 and have the HTA3794 compressor wheel on it.
i called FP. i was told they will not do it. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
i called FP. i was told they will not do it. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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500RPM is a bit extreme. from a few charts i saw ''on other platforms'' it was either the same or as much as 200rpm sooner but 30/50hp gains uptop. that was the old 6262 VS new 62CEA. i saw a few back to backs of the old 6765 VS new 6766 CEA and it was basically the same thing as i just stated just 67 type HP. lol
and it isnt a billet wheel Idk why I thought it was.Your in florida to once you get it done we can get together and see the difference. I would do the hta 3582 on a 2.3 or the hta 3794. Just depends on what you are looking for. If you want to go for a ride in my car let me know I promiss you it will make up your mind really quick. The above pull was at 32lbs btw. You will have allot of fun with any stroker if tq is what you are looking for.
IMO the PTE new CEA turbine is better then garretts and FP's HTA 7 blade compressor wheels are better then PTE's 6 blade compressor wheels. i wish we could buy the 6262/6266 and have a FP HTA compressor wheel put on it or the 6766 and have the HTA3794 compressor wheel on it.
i called FP. i was told they will not do it. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
i called FP. i was told they will not do it. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
ETS said they would. i called because i am interested in the 6266 but with the HTA86 compressor wheel. OR prossibly even a 6766 with the HTA94 compressor wheel. who ever answered the phone told me no it can not be done
Just want to clear this up a lil, Okay spoke with a PTE tech as i have an old none cea 6262. From what he told me the CEA6266 will spool faster than my non cea6262 which is great. Also the non cea 6262 will make the same maybe a lil less than the cea 6262 but the CEA will spool much fast he indeed said 200-500rpm faster depending on setup. Now the CEA6266 will make 30-50hp more than the CEA6262 depending on setup. All this came from a PTE tech.
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Just want to clear this up a lil, Okay spoke with a PTE tech as i have an old none cea 6262. From what he told me the CEA6266 will spool faster than my non cea6262 which is great. Also the non cea 6262 will make the same maybe a lil less than the cea 6262 but the CEA will spool much fast he indeed said 200-500rpm faster depending on setup. Now the CEA6266 will make 30-50hp more than the CEA6262 depending on setup. All this came from a PTE tech.
being like 200 rpms faster tops
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more laggy then the hta 3586, I would say ask DB or AWD or STM they seem to think the 3586 is a better turbo then the 6262 they deal with set ups more often.
I make over 500/500 by 4500 but its not a fair comparison I am on a 2.4. I am impressed with your graph though I have been in 2 6262 2.0 and the car would barely move before 5250-5500.
Still no answer to my question of the 6262 was so great why did they redesign it with the 6266?
Everyone is going to have there opinion I did allot of research before I purchased the hta86 and I bought what I bought this thread could go on forever. 6262 guys will defend what they bought hta guys will defend the hta. This was compared before on evom and posted in by DB and AWD both chose the hta.
I make over 500/500 by 4500 but its not a fair comparison I am on a 2.4. I am impressed with your graph though I have been in 2 6262 2.0 and the car would barely move before 5250-5500.
Still no answer to my question of the 6262 was so great why did they redesign it with the 6266?
Everyone is going to have there opinion I did allot of research before I purchased the hta86 and I bought what I bought this thread could go on forever. 6262 guys will defend what they bought hta guys will defend the hta. This was compared before on evom and posted in by DB and AWD both chose the hta.
I'm looking for billet cea 6262 NOT the old ones but that one dyno sheet that was posted with the old 62 on a 2.0 helps because I've heard that the new cea technology reduces lag by 500 rpms plus i'm going 2.3 and doing all of the little things like coating the manifold and turbo to get the spool time down as low as possible.
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so the 6262 cea spools around 4800 on a 2.0 and the 6266 cea spools at about 5k? am I getting this correct?
The hta86 spools around 43-4500 on a 2.4 so would the 6262 cea spool a little faster than that on a 2.3?
The hta86 spools around 43-4500 on a 2.4 so would the 6262 cea spool a little faster than that on a 2.3?
Well thats just the thing the cea has to be faster than that, I have a non CEA billit DBB SP6262 t3 .82 and i have my turbo fully spooled with 27psi @ 47xx. I also have GSC S2 everything else stock manifold and TB. Maybe its my fullrace twinscroll manifold but i don't think so as the turbo housing itself isn't designed twinscroll.