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Old Mar 29, 2012 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by evotuner04
fp black would get you there wouldnt it? check out maps ef4
Yea but the problem with the black that I have is that i feel the turbo wont last because the amount of boost you have to push to meet my goals is really high. IDk how the new bb blacks are doing it seems pretty good. I just want to go t3 and have a better performing low end t3 setup.. something around 4-4400 for full boost. I think with the new cea wheel it can spool a little faster than the 86 but no sheets as of yet to confirm

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Not trying to thread jack but here's my situation. I am on a stock block right now and want to try and make it through summer before I pull it and have it built. I want more power now and figured I could get a setup that will get me up around 500-550hp and keep the torque mild to try and preserve the block. My tuner mentioned get a 6262cea bb, he makes sweet custom header setups (Fathouse Fabrications). Then with the built motor we can push the setup and make some better numbers. Is this the best turbo..... or is it gonna be miserable driving on the street with a stock block and not making making very big numbers? Should I just not worry about it and endure it until we can push it and the lag will be worth the power hit? Should I go with the 6266 or a garret turbo? Too many options.
I mean if you look through this thread there are some people on 2.0's i think that have boost by 5k but i forget if its built or not. The 6262 cea seems ideal for something that hits lower but also holds it up top... 6266 will lag more than cea 6266. And lol yea there are way too many options
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Old Mar 29, 2012 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ApexEVoIX03
Yea but the problem with the black that I have is that i feel the turbo wont last because the amount of boost you have to push to meet my goals is really high. IDk how the new bb blacks are doing it seems pretty good. I just want to go t3 and have a better performing low end t3 setup.. something around 4-4400 for full boost. I think with the new cea wheel it can spool a little faster than the 86 but no sheets as of yet to confirm



I mean if you look through this thread there are some people on 2.0's i think that have boost by 5k but i forget if its built or not. The 6262 cea seems ideal for something that hits lower but also holds it up top... 6266 will lag more than cea 6266. And lol yea there are way too many options
I gave my tuner a deposit today, he's gonna order the 6262cea bb
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Old Mar 29, 2012 | 10:48 PM
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I gave my tuner a deposit today, he's gonna order the 6262cea bb
Hell effing yesss! haha let us know what power is like when you put that thing on!
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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 05:59 AM
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Hell effing yesss! haha let us know what power is like when you put that thing on!
Ya Im excited. Ill put some vd graphs up once we get it spinning. It will be a bit as everything has to be fabbed and fitted which is ok cause that gives me time to get a few other things ordered.
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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ScorpionT
The 6266 will not spool as quick as the 6262. Ive seen the new turbine wheel compared with the old 65mm side by side, and I can tell you the changes are very minimal and definitely not substantial enough to drop spool time that much.
I haven't been able to compare but all the documentation they have on it and having conversations with them they say it will outperform the old style 6262 everywhere.

I think the 6466's performance will spool a little slower then the 6266 but make more peak power.....not as much as the 6766 (but still spool faster then the 6766).

The supra graph appears to support that.
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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by gpfury86
Ya Im excited. Ill put some vd graphs up once we get it spinning. It will be a bit as everything has to be fabbed and fitted which is ok cause that gives me time to get a few other things ordered.
Alright cool.. looking forward to see how it spools on your build.. Are you staying with a stock 2.0 or going built 2.0 or 2.3?
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Old Mar 31, 2012 | 03:21 PM
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Alright cool.. looking forward to see how it spools on your build.. Are you staying with a stock 2.0 or going built 2.0 or 2.3?
For right now it's just gonna be a stock block. If it holds together through the summer I'm still debating, but probably just stick with the 2.0 and put some good internals maybe up the compression some.... I dunno exact plans yet
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Old Mar 31, 2012 | 03:35 PM
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damn i dont know if i want to get the 35rb,hta86 or 6466 so many good turbo's out rite now!

im looking to do a forward facing setup and the 6466 would be pretty bad *** lol
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Old Mar 31, 2012 | 03:38 PM
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HTA86 FTW! I see 20psi @ 4100rpm and 41psi @ 4900 on my setup. The 6266 may work, no ones sure yet. HTA86 just freakin works. Although the 6466 sounds interesting. Plus the reliability track record with the precisions just isnt as good as the T3 Fp's. That was the breaker for me. I have used 2 garret based turbos and never had 1 issue, you just cant go wrong with the HTA86. Go to my "started threads" to see my dyno graph thread.

Someone send me a 6266, i will test it out... LOL

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Old Mar 31, 2012 | 11:55 PM
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I think we have just been in a turbine housing mismatch for a long time. These arent secret turbos, they have large turbines and large housings. We did that on Jeff's car (1.44 A/r) and saw some really crazy improvements and I think with some prodding we can get big TS/T4 housings for the 86 and do the same thing.

If these turbos beat Dave's numbers, Curt Browns, My numbers, etc. then I'll be impressed. For right now making 800whp on a 62mm and an Evo is the benchmark, not a 3.4L Supra.
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Old Apr 1, 2012 | 12:24 AM
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^^^agreed I made 775/650 at 37lbs it spools just about as quick as my old setup 2.0 with the fp black. I cant ask for anything more. The only change I would make is to try the hta3794 but other then that I am very happy and satisfied.

I will just stick with proven(hta86) over interesting any day interesting can get expensive if it doesnt work out.
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Old Apr 1, 2012 | 09:56 AM
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Anyone have any input on the 6266 CEA for a built stage 5 head and 2.3l stroker? What would it reach full spool around?
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Old Apr 1, 2012 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by browningderek
HTA86 FTW! I see 20psi @ 4100rpm and 41psi @ 4900 on my setup. The 6266 may work, no ones sure yet. HTA86 just freakin works. Although the 6466 sounds interesting. Plus the reliability track record with the precisions just isnt as good as the T3 Fp's. That was the breaker for me. I have used 2 garret based turbos and never had 1 issue, you just cant go wrong with the HTA86. Go to my "started threads" to see my dyno graph thread.

Someone send me a 6266, i will test it out... LOL
LOL ill check out your thread... but damn thats pretty good.. I really like the answers im getting for the hta86.. it looks like this might end up being the turbo!

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Anyone have any input on the 6266 CEA for a built stage 5 head and 2.3l stroker? What would it reach full spool around?
Keep me posted on your build cause that looks like it could be a pretty interesting setup.

Thanks for the input everyone keep it coming
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Old Apr 1, 2012 | 08:58 PM
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Here is another one that shows what the 3586 is capable of-

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ke-8-club.html
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Old Apr 1, 2012 | 10:05 PM
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that makes me want to keep my HTA86 instead of selling it. lol
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