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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 05:50 AM
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Turbo Dead.....

*Updated 4/20*

After getting the turbo out of the car along with the oil feed line, I went over everything. Upon getting to the Oil Filter, I noticed that it was almost completely clogged up which led to oil starvation. This probably was caused by the new engine build and what appeared to be a silicone/grease like substance stuck in the filter. It was pointed out that with new engine builds, it's best to probably replace the filter during your normal break in procedure (100/500/1000 miles increments). Sad way to see a turbo go but it's definitely a good warning to others to check that filter regularly to prevent an expensive repair.

*End Update*



FP Black (Journal) turbo died on Sunday. Looks like the input shaft is seized up. A couple of fins look like they have "minor" dmg.

When it happened on Sunday at an autox event, it was a like a major boost leak occurred and no power could be made (no smoke or loss of oil). When I noticed it, I immediately just cruised slowly back to the parking area and packed up. Drove the car home (25~ miles) very slowly. At the time I thought it was a boost leak.

Car ran perfectly fine minus no power. I got everything ripped apart and a new DBB FP Red turbo arriving today. Based on the fact that the input shaft was seized and minor dmg to the fins, should I be worried at all about any of the dmg'd fin pieces getting into the engine? The reason i ask is that I have a new BR 2.3 in and would hate to see it go.

Thanks for the input. All oil/coolant has been drained if that makes any difference.








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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 05:57 AM
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You should be fine. The same thing happened to me when my JB Red died.
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 06:57 AM
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If there's any pieces broken off you might want to check your intercooler to see if they're caught in there (take it off and shake it like you're Ike turner). Since you already drove home after the failure the damage I'd think and damage that would've been done, is done. You're probably okay at this point.
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 08:21 AM
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When my jb black blows chuncks im also getting the dbb red....good choice!

I would pull of all ic piping and check for debris .....gl
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 09:59 AM
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how long did you run it before it died?
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 10:02 AM
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Probably about 10k miles.

Installed around 30k miles and car has almost 40k miles on it.
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 02:05 PM
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Added pictures to the op.
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 02:17 PM
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Id be more concerned about why it blew. A $2k turbo should last more than 10k miles.
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Dallas J
Id be more concerned about why it blew. A $2k turbo should last more than 10k miles.
While I agree, I'd say it's probably a combination of the following:
1.) Journal Bearing
2.) AutoX and RR it a bunch
3.) Engine failure last year
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 06:19 PM
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If its a FP turbo, then do you run their inline filter?

Just cause its a journal bearing doesnt mean it should have failed. Ive run EvoIII turbos for 50k miles over spinning them to 30psi and havent been able to kill one. Stock Evo turbos are to 30psi for years on BSP (now ASP) Evos, and still you dont hear many stories of dead stock turbos.

Just saying, I wouldn't let FP off that easily. It seems that I read far too often about FP turbo failures and little done on their part about it. Personally, that doesnt speak to great quality to me.
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Dallas J
If its a FP turbo, then do you run their inline filter?

Just cause its a journal bearing doesnt mean it should have failed. Ive run EvoIII turbos for 50k miles over spinning them to 30psi and havent been able to kill one. Stock Evo turbos are to 30psi for years on BSP (now ASP) Evos, and still you dont hear many stories of dead stock turbos.

Just saying, I wouldn't let FP off that easily. It seems that I read far too often about FP turbo failures and little done on their part about it. Personally, that doesnt speak to great quality to me.
Yes it was an FP black and yes I was running their filter and oil line.
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 06:45 PM
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Have you pulled the filter apart and checked if its clogged?
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 06:50 PM
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for real, id be pissed if i blew that turbo! unless.. you know; imma million-air
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Old Apr 19, 2012 | 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Dallas J
Have you pulled the filter apart and checked if its clogged?
Have not. Trying to get the car back together today and tomorrow while we have nice weather.

Originally Posted by Sidnakit
for real, id be pissed if i blew that turbo! unless.. you know; imma million-air
Don't get me wrong, I'm pissed. I was signed up for an evo school this saturday and will miss it along with an autox event on sunday.
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 04:35 PM
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Updated the OP, but here is the updated of what I found out after getting everything torn apart.

*Updated 4/20*

After getting the turbo out of the car along with the oil feed line, I went over everything. Upon getting to the Oil Filter, I noticed that it was almost completely clogged up which led to oil starvation. This probably was caused by the new engine build and what appeared to be a silicone/grease like substance stuck in the filter. It was pointed out that with new engine builds, it's best to probably replace the filter during your normal break in procedure (100/500/1000 miles increments). Sad way to see a turbo go but it's definitely a good warning to others to check that filter regularly to prevent an expensive repair.

*End Update*
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