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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 03:22 PM
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Which bottom end to go with...

I've been doing some research as far which bottom end to build and I think the time has come to stop trolling through existing posts. I'm building a car that will see a lot of street use and quarter mile abuse but is not my daily driver. Tuning will be done on both 93 and E85. I have a full race twin scroll setup based around an EFR 8374 EWG with a 1.05 A/R (79lbs/min). I just want to say first of all this isn't another post asking for ***** to the wall power and faster than stock spool. I fully understand the capabilities and limitations of this turbo after extensively talking with full race. I was initially debating a 2.1 or a 2.3LR but I don't want to limit myself to any engine. From what I have seen this turbo puts down very good numbers on a 2.0 from ~5500 rpm and up and can only get better with more displacement and/or rpm (I based this on the pump gas results). If I could rev my bottom end to say 9500 well then that's a good power band in my opinion. Alot of motors can rev that high but which ones actually live for a while at those rpms? If anyone has regretted anything about a build like this, what was it? I'm looking for as much info as I can before I decide on a shortblock. What have your experiences been with the motor you have decided to build?
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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 04:32 PM
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4g64 Block
94mm Crank
159mm Rods
Custom Pistons

DONE.

(BTW, this = 2.2L)

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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 04:35 PM
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Easier to read now.

Originally Posted by nismo3183
I've been doing some research as far which bottom end to build and I think the time has come to stop trolling through existing posts.

I'm building a car that will see a lot of street use and quarter mile abuse but is not my daily driver.

-93 Octane and E85
-Full race twin scroll Turbo Kit
-EFR 8374 EWG w 1.05 A/R (79lbs/min)

I just want to say first of all this isn't another post asking for ***** to the wall power and faster than stock spool. I fully understand the capabilities and limitations of this turbo after extensively talking with full race.

I was initially debating a 2.1 or a 2.3LR but I don't want to limit myself to any engine. From what I have seen this turbo puts down very good numbers on a 2.0 from ~5500 rpm and up and can only get better with more displacement and/or rpm (I based this on the pump gas results).

If I could rev my bottom end to say 9500 well then that's a good power band in my opinion.

Alot of motors can rev that high but which ones actually live for a while at those rpms?

If anyone has regretted anything about a build like this, what was it? I'm looking for as much info as I can before I decide on a shortblock. What have your experiences been with the motor you have decided to build?
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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 07:23 PM
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I haven't seen much along the lines of a 2.2. Everything seems to be 2.1. Any reputable builders for a 2.2?
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Originally Posted by Blue91lx
4g64 Block
94mm Crank
159mm Rods
Custom Pistons

DONE.

(BTW, this = 2.2L)
Blue, what intake manifold and tb u recommend for my build ? I am going with 6266 journal bearing e85 making around 600awhp
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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 08:57 PM
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I haven't seen much along the lines of a 2.2. Everything seems to be 2.1. Any reputable builders for a 2.2?
Talk to English Racing or Fathouse Fabrications and they'll be able to set you up with whatever setup you decide, with ample information in regards to what to go with .

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Blue, what intake manifold and tb u recommend for my build ? I am going with 6266 journal bearing e85 making around 600awhp
Curt Brown Extreme Port 70mm IM seen below:

http://curtbrownracing.com/70mm_port...ifolds_11.html

Ran with a Full Blown 70mm TB.

If you don't like that, go with a ported Skunk 2 IM or a Magnus.
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