Forward Facing Manifolds.. Simple Guide
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Forward Facing Manifolds.. Simple Guide
*ATTENTION: Please read through the entire thread, as some of the great men and companies that have created these kits have provided information themselves as well as additional information.* Last Updated: 1/30/16
I've been researching for a few days and just thought I'd throw this together for the next person interested in going with a FF kit like me and maybe save them some time finding out who makes them. I'm personally doing a PTE 6466 with an A/C kit and still undecided if I'm going Vband or T3, and who gives you what with their hot parts kit, also trying to figure out which ones are still able to keep the AC compressor, which brought me onto looking at all the different options.
Now, I'm sure almost all these companies will make a manifold or a kit in any configuration you want for the right price or added fees, so these are just website lists with website prices and mostly website info, PRETTY BASIC. If there is any missing information by all means whoever owns one of the manifolds listed or has an absolute positive answer please fill in the blanks for us and if there are any manifolds missing let me know and I'll add them.
For those of you that plan on trying to run AC still with your FF setup (after you pick a manifold setup that'll keep the AC compressor) if you don't plan on making a custom condenser setup, Alex makes a bolt in kit just for you! HERE!
*This isn't a which is better post, this is a who makes what, what fits what post. If you need a different flange, wastegate, or anything else to fit your needs call or email these companies and I'm sure you can get exactly what you're looking for, whether it be free of charge or at a cost.*
'THE SHOOTOUT' FORWARD FACING GUIDELINE: So pick your setup carefully if you plan to participate and/or make sure it's possible for you to follow the rules for the class you want to be in.
STM (Street Tuned Motorsports)
Flange: T3
Wastegate: Tial 44mm
Runner Size: 1.5"
Air Filter Space: No
AC Compressor Space: No
Hot Parts Kit: Yes (Downpipe, O2 Housing, Vband Clamp, Dump Tube)
*LICP Available HERE
ETS (Extreme Turbo Systems)
Flange: T3, T4, Vband (Tial or Precision)
Wastegate: Tial 44mm (Dual 38mm or Dual 44mm is available)
Runner Size: 1.5"
Air Filter Space: Yes, With a silicone 90 right off the turbo it can be done.
AC Compressor Space: Yes
Hot Parts Kit: Yes, They can build you a hot parts kit. (Upon Request)
*T3 and T4 Twin scroll available
Fathouse Fabrications
Flange: Vband (Works with Tial and Precision)
Wastegate: Tial 44mm
Runner Size: 1.5" (1.25" upon Request)
Air Filter Space: Yes
AC Compressor Space: Yes
Hot Parts Kit: Yes (Downpipe, O2 Housing, Dump Tube)
*LICP available HERE
JDL Auto Design
Flange: T3, T4 Divided, Vband (Tial or Precision)
Wastegate: Precision 46mm (Dual Tial 38mm if Divided)
Runner Size: T3, T4, and Vband is 1.5" / T4 Divided is 1.25" (1.5" upon request)
Air Filter Space: Yes
AC Compressor Space: Yes
Hot Parts Kit: Yes (Downpipe, O2 Housing, Dump Tube)
*Includes LICP
ToxicFab
Flange: T3, T4, Vband (Tial or Precision)
Wastegate: Tial 44mm
Runner Size: 1.5" (1.25" upon request)
Air Filter Space: Yes, a small filter
AC Compressor Space: Yes
Hot Parts Kit: Yes (O2 Housing, Dump Tube)
*Includes LICP
*Also available in 321 stainless dual slip fit
*T4 Twin Scroll FF Manifold and a Stock Frame FF Manifold available
JMF (JM Fabrications)
Flange: T3, T3 Divided, T4, T4 Divided, Vband (Tial or Precision)
Wastegate: Tial 38mm or Tial 44mm (Dual if Divided)
Runner Size: 1.5"
Air Filter Space: Yes, a small filter
AC Compressor Space: ?
Hot Parts Kit: Yes (O2 Housing, Dump Tube or Recirculated)
Buschur Racing
Flange: Vband (Tial or Precison)
Wastegate: Tial 44mm
Runner Size: 1.5"
Air Filter Space: Yes
AC Compressor Space: Yes
Hot Parts Kit: Yes (Downpipe, O2 Housing, Dump Tube, Oil Feed Line, Oil Return Line, Air Filter)
Full-Race
Flange: T4 Divided (Twin Scroll)
Wastegate: Dual Tial 44mm
Runner Size: 1.5"
Air Filter Space: No
AC Compressor Space: ?
Hot Parts Kit: No
Sheepey Inc.
Flange: T3, Vband (Tial or Precison)
Wastegate: Tial 44mm / Turbosmart 45mm
Runner Size: 1.5"
Air Filter Space: No (Custom Sheepey intercooler needed)
AC Compressor Space: Yes
Hot Parts Kit: Yes (Downpipe, O2 Housing, Dump Tube, Air Filter, Vband Clamps)
*LICP optional
*Twin Scroll available
DOC Race
Flange: T4 Divided (Twin Scroll)
Wastegate: Dual Tial 44mm or Dual Tial 38mm
Runner Size: 1.5"
Air Filter Space: No
AC Compressor Space: No
Hot Parts Kit: No
AFI Turbo
Flange: T3, T4 (open or divided)
Wastegate: Tial 44mm (Dual Tial 38mm if Divided)
Runner Size: 1.5"
Air Filter Space: Yes
AC Compressor Space: Yes
Hot Parts Kit: Downpipe only
Shark-Fab
Flange:
Wastegate:
Runner Size:
Air Filter Space:
AC Compressor Space:
Hot Parts Kit:
I've been researching for a few days and just thought I'd throw this together for the next person interested in going with a FF kit like me and maybe save them some time finding out who makes them. I'm personally doing a PTE 6466 with an A/C kit and still undecided if I'm going Vband or T3, and who gives you what with their hot parts kit, also trying to figure out which ones are still able to keep the AC compressor, which brought me onto looking at all the different options.
Now, I'm sure almost all these companies will make a manifold or a kit in any configuration you want for the right price or added fees, so these are just website lists with website prices and mostly website info, PRETTY BASIC. If there is any missing information by all means whoever owns one of the manifolds listed or has an absolute positive answer please fill in the blanks for us and if there are any manifolds missing let me know and I'll add them.
For those of you that plan on trying to run AC still with your FF setup (after you pick a manifold setup that'll keep the AC compressor) if you don't plan on making a custom condenser setup, Alex makes a bolt in kit just for you! HERE!
*This isn't a which is better post, this is a who makes what, what fits what post. If you need a different flange, wastegate, or anything else to fit your needs call or email these companies and I'm sure you can get exactly what you're looking for, whether it be free of charge or at a cost.*
'THE SHOOTOUT' FORWARD FACING GUIDELINE: So pick your setup carefully if you plan to participate and/or make sure it's possible for you to follow the rules for the class you want to be in.
For the Eliminator class the dump tube(s) MUST exit under the car AND the car MUST be equipped with an air filter that CAN NOT extend past the grille of the car.
If your dump tube exits the hood like a pulling tractor and you have no air filter the car will have to be in STREET 32 or QUICK 32.
If your dump tube exits the hood like a pulling tractor and you have no air filter the car will have to be in STREET 32 or QUICK 32.
STM (Street Tuned Motorsports)
Flange: T3
Wastegate: Tial 44mm
Runner Size: 1.5"
Air Filter Space: No
AC Compressor Space: No
Hot Parts Kit: Yes (Downpipe, O2 Housing, Vband Clamp, Dump Tube)
*LICP Available HERE
ETS (Extreme Turbo Systems)
Flange: T3, T4, Vband (Tial or Precision)
Wastegate: Tial 44mm (Dual 38mm or Dual 44mm is available)
Runner Size: 1.5"
Air Filter Space: Yes, With a silicone 90 right off the turbo it can be done.
AC Compressor Space: Yes
Hot Parts Kit: Yes, They can build you a hot parts kit. (Upon Request)
*T3 and T4 Twin scroll available
Fathouse Fabrications
Flange: Vband (Works with Tial and Precision)
Wastegate: Tial 44mm
Runner Size: 1.5" (1.25" upon Request)
Air Filter Space: Yes
AC Compressor Space: Yes
Hot Parts Kit: Yes (Downpipe, O2 Housing, Dump Tube)
*LICP available HERE
JDL Auto Design
Flange: T3, T4 Divided, Vband (Tial or Precision)
Wastegate: Precision 46mm (Dual Tial 38mm if Divided)
Runner Size: T3, T4, and Vband is 1.5" / T4 Divided is 1.25" (1.5" upon request)
Air Filter Space: Yes
AC Compressor Space: Yes
Hot Parts Kit: Yes (Downpipe, O2 Housing, Dump Tube)
*Includes LICP
ToxicFab
Flange: T3, T4, Vband (Tial or Precision)
Wastegate: Tial 44mm
Runner Size: 1.5" (1.25" upon request)
Air Filter Space: Yes, a small filter
AC Compressor Space: Yes
Hot Parts Kit: Yes (O2 Housing, Dump Tube)
*Includes LICP
*Also available in 321 stainless dual slip fit
*T4 Twin Scroll FF Manifold and a Stock Frame FF Manifold available
JMF (JM Fabrications)
Flange: T3, T3 Divided, T4, T4 Divided, Vband (Tial or Precision)
Wastegate: Tial 38mm or Tial 44mm (Dual if Divided)
Runner Size: 1.5"
Air Filter Space: Yes, a small filter
AC Compressor Space: ?
Hot Parts Kit: Yes (O2 Housing, Dump Tube or Recirculated)
Buschur Racing
Flange: Vband (Tial or Precison)
Wastegate: Tial 44mm
Runner Size: 1.5"
Air Filter Space: Yes
AC Compressor Space: Yes
Hot Parts Kit: Yes (Downpipe, O2 Housing, Dump Tube, Oil Feed Line, Oil Return Line, Air Filter)
Full-Race
Flange: T4 Divided (Twin Scroll)
Wastegate: Dual Tial 44mm
Runner Size: 1.5"
Air Filter Space: No
AC Compressor Space: ?
Hot Parts Kit: No
Sheepey Inc.
Flange: T3, Vband (Tial or Precison)
Wastegate: Tial 44mm / Turbosmart 45mm
Runner Size: 1.5"
Air Filter Space: No (Custom Sheepey intercooler needed)
AC Compressor Space: Yes
Hot Parts Kit: Yes (Downpipe, O2 Housing, Dump Tube, Air Filter, Vband Clamps)
*LICP optional
*Twin Scroll available
DOC Race
Flange: T4 Divided (Twin Scroll)
Wastegate: Dual Tial 44mm or Dual Tial 38mm
Runner Size: 1.5"
Air Filter Space: No
AC Compressor Space: No
Hot Parts Kit: No
AFI Turbo
Flange: T3, T4 (open or divided)
Wastegate: Tial 44mm (Dual Tial 38mm if Divided)
Runner Size: 1.5"
Air Filter Space: Yes
AC Compressor Space: Yes
Hot Parts Kit: Downpipe only
Shark-Fab
Flange:
Wastegate:
Runner Size:
Air Filter Space:
AC Compressor Space:
Hot Parts Kit:
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well im going to be importing the STM FF hot parts kit for myself as the price seems to be very good to import one over.Thanks for putting this up my friend never relized so many companies make one .
Full-Race make a FF manifold to , just the manifold on its own.
Full-Race make a FF manifold to , just the manifold on its own.
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Our T3, T4, and Vband runner size 1.5" Sch 40. T4 Divided is 1.25" Sch 40 but can do 1.5" upon request. Also yes there is room for the AC compressor. Will have full kit deals with tubros that will be on the site soon. Oh and also does include dump tube(s). Correcting site right now
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Our standard kit uses 1.5" Sch 10 but we can make it with 1.25" as well. The flange will work with Tial or Precision vband turbos. There is room for the AC Compressor with our kit as well. The condenser core is the problem, you will need a custom half sized one, which we could offer. We have not had a request for that setup yet.
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Our standard kit uses 1.5" Sch 10 but we can make it with 1.25" as well. The flange will work with Tial or Precision vband turbos. There is room for the AC Compressor with our kit as well. The condenser core is the problem, you will need a custom half sized one, which we could offer. We have not had a request for that setup yet.
Thanks for all the info, already got it all updated
If there's anything else anybody wants me to add on there that they think would be of value, just let me know and I'll try to get it
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Buschur Racing
Flange: PTE V-band (T3) and Tial V-band (T3)
Wastegate: Tial 44mm
Runner Size: 1.5" ID, .110" wall thickness
Air Filter Space: Yes, of course, we were the first to do that.
AC Compressor Space: Yes
Hot Parts Kit: Yes (Header, Downpipe, O2 Housing, Dump Tube, Oil Feed Line, Return Line, Air Filter)
Complete kit is only $2499
This kit offers better spool up than the larger running tubing, we've tested it numerous times. This is also the header/turbo kit on the highest MPH EVO HTA86 and EVO9 MIVEC to date, 160.16 mph.
Flange: PTE V-band (T3) and Tial V-band (T3)
Wastegate: Tial 44mm
Runner Size: 1.5" ID, .110" wall thickness
Air Filter Space: Yes, of course, we were the first to do that.
AC Compressor Space: Yes
Hot Parts Kit: Yes (Header, Downpipe, O2 Housing, Dump Tube, Oil Feed Line, Return Line, Air Filter)
Complete kit is only $2499
This kit offers better spool up than the larger running tubing, we've tested it numerous times. This is also the header/turbo kit on the highest MPH EVO HTA86 and EVO9 MIVEC to date, 160.16 mph.
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ETS (Extreme Turbo Systems)
Flange: Vband (Tial or Precision) T3 and T4 twin or single scroll available upon request.
Wastegate: 44mm Tial is standard (twin 38mm or twin 44mm is available)
Runner Size: 1.5"
Air Filter Space: Yes, With a silicone 90 right out of the turbo it can be done.
AC Compressor Space: Yes
Hot Parts Kit: Yes, We can build you a hot parts only kit
Hope this helps answer any questions. Let me know if you have anymore.
Thanks!
Flange: Vband (Tial or Precision) T3 and T4 twin or single scroll available upon request.
Wastegate: 44mm Tial is standard (twin 38mm or twin 44mm is available)
Runner Size: 1.5"
Air Filter Space: Yes, With a silicone 90 right out of the turbo it can be done.
AC Compressor Space: Yes
Hot Parts Kit: Yes, We can build you a hot parts only kit
Hope this helps answer any questions. Let me know if you have anymore.
Thanks!
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Buschur Racing
Flange: PTE V-band (T3) and Tial V-band (T3)
Wastegate: Tial 44mm
Runner Size: 1.5" ID, .110" wall thickness
Air Filter Space: Yes, of course, we were the first to do that.
AC Compressor Space: Yes
Hot Parts Kit: Yes (Header, Downpipe, O2 Housing, Dump Tube, Oil Feed Line, Return Line, Air Filter)
Complete kit is only $2499
This kit offers better spool up than the larger running tubing, we've tested it numerous times. This is also the header/turbo kit on the highest MPH EVO HTA86 and EVO9 MIVEC to date, 160.16 mph.
Flange: PTE V-band (T3) and Tial V-band (T3)
Wastegate: Tial 44mm
Runner Size: 1.5" ID, .110" wall thickness
Air Filter Space: Yes, of course, we were the first to do that.
AC Compressor Space: Yes
Hot Parts Kit: Yes (Header, Downpipe, O2 Housing, Dump Tube, Oil Feed Line, Return Line, Air Filter)
Complete kit is only $2499
This kit offers better spool up than the larger running tubing, we've tested it numerous times. This is also the header/turbo kit on the highest MPH EVO HTA86 and EVO9 MIVEC to date, 160.16 mph.
Can't wait for the Shootout, a group of us take the ride out every year, looking forward to it again this year!
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ETS (Extreme Turbo Systems)
Flange: Vband (Tial or Precision) T3 and T4 twin or single scroll available upon request.
Wastegate: 44mm Tial is standard (twin 38mm or twin 44mm is available)
Runner Size: 1.5"
Air Filter Space: Yes, With a silicone 90 right out of the turbo it can be done.
AC Compressor Space: Yes
Hot Parts Kit: Yes, We can build you a hot parts only kit
Hope this helps answer any questions. Let me know if you have anymore.
Thanks!
Flange: Vband (Tial or Precision) T3 and T4 twin or single scroll available upon request.
Wastegate: 44mm Tial is standard (twin 38mm or twin 44mm is available)
Runner Size: 1.5"
Air Filter Space: Yes, With a silicone 90 right out of the turbo it can be done.
AC Compressor Space: Yes
Hot Parts Kit: Yes, We can build you a hot parts only kit
Hope this helps answer any questions. Let me know if you have anymore.
Thanks!
I also added a note up there for everyone to read through the thread as everyone has contributed extra info and I'd like others to read it.