Thanks for the kind words we appreciate your support.

As for your turbo selection the Green DBB is by far the best street turbo we make for the EVO 9 platform and make the widest power band possible. If you have the mods for it it can take up past the 500WHP mark with ease. As mentioned it can be hard on parts because of it's quick spool and it producing torque numbers down low.

-Michael

 

Medium sized turbos such as FP Red, MAP EF3, BBK-B provide a nice compromise between efficiency, torque delivery and curve, spool. Sure you lose 500 rpms until you feel the boost, but that's what a compromise is in the end. Also when you are driving fast you tend to be in the higher rpm range. The question is whether or not BB is worth the premium. MAP workmanship is great, and I find it difficult to justify spending the extra money just to get better transient response.

 

EF3 would get my vote, I love mine

 

plenty of room to grow with 1000cc's and a single walbro? uh no. 1000 cc's can barely handle an fp green on e85. and in order to get an fp green above about 425-450 hp, you're gonna need e85. yes a single walbro will get you 450hp on e85, but wont get too much more, hence why i say a walbro 400, which will be good for an fp red on e85/race gas or fp black on pump (or similar lb/min turbos) however if you go over lets say, 350tq, you're going to need an upgraded clutch if you dont already have one; especially if you plan to launch the car.

the ppl who say such n such made 600hp on a dbb green...thats like saying chris cessna made a 9sec pass on a stock block...you arent including the other 40 grand worth of parts they put into the car.

fp green on pump, ~375-425hp depending on other mods.
fp green on e85, ~430-500hp depending on other mods.
the normal person will not break into mid 500's on an fp green.

sorry if my tone seems a lil irritated, but im sick of people on here lowering the car IQ of others. just because one person was able to do XXX hp on a certain turbo doesnt mean everyone will. yes we all like power, but im pretty sure 500hp means nothing to you if your car is down 6 months out of the year.

 

I made 356 on spec ops mustang and 423 on VD with my green and kelford 272s on 93 octane. Going e-85 this summer.

 

im sure you're very knowledgeable on the subject but i hate to disagree with you; ive seen evo's post up in the fpred thread getting 450-460whp on 1000cc injectors and a wally 255 on pump gas ; i dont see whats so hard to get 420-430 whp out of an fpgreen on pump with the same fuel delivery and a good set of kelfords?

 

correct, running pump gas doesnt require as much flow as e85 or race gas; meaning you can run a walbro/1000's easily. but he was mentioning going fp green, and 1000's. someone said plenty of room to grow and that truly isnt much room to grow (fuel system wise) it would be wise to the OP to upgrade the fuel system so it's capable of up to whatever his future goals may ever be, that way he's not buying 2, 3, or 4 different sets of injectors.

 

oh ok i see what you're saying now. yea, with the 255 and the 1000's you basically have almost NO ROOM to grow lol.
im running 1600cc injectors and a wally 400 and i would think my fuel system has "room" to grow.

 

The part about pump gas requiring less fuel flow than E-85 sounds right. But, all else being equal and given the same boost level, race gas can be run leaner than pump before the onset of detonation. You can lean a race gas tune out further than a pump gas tune before knock occurs, all else being equal and given the same boost level and ignition timing.

Edit: Maybe nowadays what I stated above no longer holds true. Back when I had the Buick Turbo Regal ECU tuning was in its infancy. Unless you had a standalone there was no data logging. Things were relatively primitive and tunes were called flashes. The Buick ECU had a removable chip (EPROM). Basically you would have a street chip and a race chip. The race chip was usually just your street chip with more timing and higher boost and a leaner fuel map. At least that's how I recollect it. Sorry guys & gals for another pointless OT rant. But, that was about a quarter century ago. LOL

 

Go red of ef3.....people who whine about quick spool....its irrelevant. How many of u race and shift at 5k...... U dont. If 430 is your goal give or take, why not buy a bigger turbo that can get to that on pump....then with e85 your over your goal. As far as fuel mods go Id go nothing less then 1400 to 1600 injectors. And a single walbro 400 those should net you 500ish whp without your idcs skyrocketing, and having to modify your fuel system for a double pumper....if you want to see what a red with full boltons on pump can do click my links to youtube, see if the red seems too laggy for the top end hit it gives. I love it personally. Torque is fun but top end holdin u in the seat thats the good stuff. Haha good luck op.

 

You should just buy my 3076 for cheap lol I want to bigger!

 

be realistic, u know u will want more in a few months, so plan ahead. i was in the same position as u. so i decided to go with a turbo that will get me most out of my set up. in most stock block cases its the fp red. or bbk-b bb. the red spools really well, slower then green but alot of top end, with a good amount of low end grunt. look at dyno sheets.

 

FP Red

 

FP red