2.3 stoker build
2.3 stoker build
Ok folks, I need help or suggestions from you pro's out there.Main Goal 500awhp on pump gas I currently have a Ams CNC head fully built just ordered a 2.3 stage 3 buschur block strongly considering fp red bb turbo(saving for it)I have hks 272 cams ,hks camgears ,hks blow off valve ,perrin inter coller pipes,perrin intercoller,APS full exhaustdown pipe,aem digital boost contoller,walbro 255 fuel pump.I was thinking of upgrading the cams not sure what to get kelford,hks,or buschur.I know I also have to upgrade my injectors.Im not intersted in E85,but would do water meth injection if I have to.Im not sure, if I need a upgraded in take manifold with trottle body.Any help would be appreciated!!!
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Ok folks,
I need help or suggestions from you pro's out there. My main goal is 500awhp on pump gas. What mods do I need to get there?
Current Mods:
-AMS CNC Head
-HKS 272
-Buschur 2.3L Stage 3 Shortblock
-Perrin IC Pipes
-Turbo Back Exhaust
-255 Walbro
I know I also have to upgrade my injectors to achieve 500whp on pump gas. I'm not intersted in using E85, but would do water meth injection if I have to. Do I need an upgraded IM/TB?
Any help would be appreciated!
Ok folks,
I need help or suggestions from you pro's out there. My main goal is 500awhp on pump gas. What mods do I need to get there?
Current Mods:
-AMS CNC Head
-HKS 272
-Buschur 2.3L Stage 3 Shortblock
-Perrin IC Pipes
-Turbo Back Exhaust
-255 Walbro
I know I also have to upgrade my injectors to achieve 500whp on pump gas. I'm not intersted in using E85, but would do water meth injection if I have to. Do I need an upgraded IM/TB?
Any help would be appreciated!
Now to answer.
Motor/bolt-ons:
-I would look into porting your IM (Curt Brown would be my choice).
-Next, get rid of said HKS272s. I would go with S2s or S3s. Make sure your AMS head has the proper valvetrain to support said new cam.
Fuel:
-Injectors, on pump gas, anything low impedance more than a 1450cc is going to drive like sh*t on pump gas. However, 1250s or 1450s will get you there on pump.
-You do not need a double pumper. Get a Walbro 400lph and that will get you where you need to be.
Turbo:
You're not going to hit 500whp on pump with a Red. In fact, a Black would barely get you there, so I'd advise going T3. Meth isn't reliable, so I wouldn't go that route. A used cast T3 setup can be had for cheap and will get you where you need to be while spooling better than most normal runner size manifolds, and won't be a restriction under ~700whp.
I'm not on the forums much anymore and I've personally answered your exact inquiry multiple times in the last month, let alone year, so a 10 second search will net you with more valuable information (some not so much) than you know what to do with.
Hope that helps.
Motor/bolt-ons:
-I would look into porting your IM (Curt Brown would be my choice).
-Next, get rid of said HKS272s. I would go with S2s or S3s. Make sure your AMS head has the proper valvetrain to support said new cam.
Fuel:
-Injectors, on pump gas, anything low impedance more than a 1450cc is going to drive like sh*t on pump gas. However, 1250s or 1450s will get you there on pump.
-You do not need a double pumper. Get a Walbro 400lph and that will get you where you need to be.
Turbo:
You're not going to hit 500whp on pump with a Red. In fact, a Black would barely get you there, so I'd advise going T3. Meth isn't reliable, so I wouldn't go that route. A used cast T3 setup can be had for cheap and will get you where you need to be while spooling better than most normal runner size manifolds, and won't be a restriction under ~700whp.
I'm not on the forums much anymore and I've personally answered your exact inquiry multiple times in the last month, let alone year, so a 10 second search will net you with more valuable information (some not so much) than you know what to do with.
Hope that helps.
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If you're patient and find used parts, a T3 setup can be had cheap. My Hafe manifold, 02 housing, Tial WG, and old BB PTE SC61 was pieced together for $900 and made 487whp with 91 pump on a super safe, base tune just to get it on the road.
If you're patient and find used parts, a T3 setup can be had cheap. My Hafe manifold, 02 housing, Tial WG, and old BB PTE SC61 was pieced together for $900 and made 487whp with 91 pump on a super safe, base tune just to get it on the road.
Now to answer.
Motor/bolt-ons:
-I would look into porting your IM (Curt Brown would be my choice).
-Next, get rid of said HKS272s. I would go with S2s or S3s. Make sure your AMS head has the proper valvetrain to support said new cam.
Fuel:
-Injectors, on pump gas, anything low impedance more than a 1450cc is going to drive like sh*t on pump gas. However, 1250s or 1450s will get you there on pump.
-You do not need a double pumper. Get a Walbro 400lph and that will get you where you need to be.
Turbo:
You're not going to hit 500whp on pump with a Red. In fact, a Black would barely get you there, so I'd advise going T3. Meth isn't reliable, so I wouldn't go that route. A used cast T3 setup can be had for cheap and will get you where you need to be while spooling better than most normal runner size manifolds, and won't be a restriction under ~700whp.
I'm not on the forums much anymore and I've personally answered your exact inquiry multiple times in the last month, let alone year, so a 10 second search will net you with more valuable information (some not so much) than you know what to do with.
Hope that helps.
Motor/bolt-ons:
-I would look into porting your IM (Curt Brown would be my choice).
-Next, get rid of said HKS272s. I would go with S2s or S3s. Make sure your AMS head has the proper valvetrain to support said new cam.
Fuel:
-Injectors, on pump gas, anything low impedance more than a 1450cc is going to drive like sh*t on pump gas. However, 1250s or 1450s will get you there on pump.
-You do not need a double pumper. Get a Walbro 400lph and that will get you where you need to be.
Turbo:
You're not going to hit 500whp on pump with a Red. In fact, a Black would barely get you there, so I'd advise going T3. Meth isn't reliable, so I wouldn't go that route. A used cast T3 setup can be had for cheap and will get you where you need to be while spooling better than most normal runner size manifolds, and won't be a restriction under ~700whp.
I'm not on the forums much anymore and I've personally answered your exact inquiry multiple times in the last month, let alone year, so a 10 second search will net you with more valuable information (some not so much) than you know what to do with.
Hope that helps.
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Now to answer.
Motor/bolt-ons:
-I would look into porting your IM (Curt Brown would be my choice).
-Next, get rid of said HKS272s. I would go with S2s or S3s. Make sure your AMS head has the proper valvetrain to support said new cam.
Fuel:
-Injectors, on pump gas, anything low impedance more than a 1450cc is going to drive like sh*t on pump gas. However, 1250s or 1450s will get you there on pump.
-You do not need a double pumper. Get a Walbro 400lph and that will get you where you need to be.
Turbo:
You're not going to hit 500whp on pump with a Red. In fact, a Black would barely get you there, so I'd advise going T3. Meth isn't reliable, so I wouldn't go that route. A used cast T3 setup can be had for cheap and will get you where you need to be while spooling better than most normal runner size manifolds, and won't be a restriction under ~700whp.
I'm not on the forums much anymore and I've personally answered your exact inquiry multiple times in the last month, let alone year, so a 10 second search will net you with more valuable information (some not so much) than you know what to do with.
Hope that helps.
Motor/bolt-ons:
-I would look into porting your IM (Curt Brown would be my choice).
-Next, get rid of said HKS272s. I would go with S2s or S3s. Make sure your AMS head has the proper valvetrain to support said new cam.
Fuel:
-Injectors, on pump gas, anything low impedance more than a 1450cc is going to drive like sh*t on pump gas. However, 1250s or 1450s will get you there on pump.
-You do not need a double pumper. Get a Walbro 400lph and that will get you where you need to be.
Turbo:
You're not going to hit 500whp on pump with a Red. In fact, a Black would barely get you there, so I'd advise going T3. Meth isn't reliable, so I wouldn't go that route. A used cast T3 setup can be had for cheap and will get you where you need to be while spooling better than most normal runner size manifolds, and won't be a restriction under ~700whp.
I'm not on the forums much anymore and I've personally answered your exact inquiry multiple times in the last month, let alone year, so a 10 second search will net you with more valuable information (some not so much) than you know what to do with.
Hope that helps.
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Now to answer.
Motor/bolt-ons:
-I would look into porting your IM (Curt Brown would be my choice).
-Next, get rid of said HKS272s. I would go with S2s or S3s. Make sure your AMS head has the proper valvetrain to support said new cam.
Fuel:
-Injectors, on pump gas, anything low impedance more than a 1450cc is going to drive like sh*t on pump gas. However, 1250s or 1450s will get you there on pump.
-You do not need a double pumper. Get a Walbro 400lph and that will get you where you need to be.
Turbo:
You're not going to hit 500whp on pump with a Red. In fact, a Black would barely get you there, so I'd advise going T3. Meth isn't reliable, so I wouldn't go that route. A used cast T3 setup can be had for cheap and will get you where you need to be while spooling better than most normal runner size manifolds, and won't be a restriction under ~700whp.
I'm not on the forums much anymore and I've personally answered your exact inquiry multiple times in the last month, let alone year, so a 10 second search will net you with more valuable information (some not so much) than you know what to do with.
Hope that helps.
Motor/bolt-ons:
-I would look into porting your IM (Curt Brown would be my choice).
-Next, get rid of said HKS272s. I would go with S2s or S3s. Make sure your AMS head has the proper valvetrain to support said new cam.
Fuel:
-Injectors, on pump gas, anything low impedance more than a 1450cc is going to drive like sh*t on pump gas. However, 1250s or 1450s will get you there on pump.
-You do not need a double pumper. Get a Walbro 400lph and that will get you where you need to be.
Turbo:
You're not going to hit 500whp on pump with a Red. In fact, a Black would barely get you there, so I'd advise going T3. Meth isn't reliable, so I wouldn't go that route. A used cast T3 setup can be had for cheap and will get you where you need to be while spooling better than most normal runner size manifolds, and won't be a restriction under ~700whp.
I'm not on the forums much anymore and I've personally answered your exact inquiry multiple times in the last month, let alone year, so a 10 second search will net you with more valuable information (some not so much) than you know what to do with.
Hope that helps.
Ok. Just purchased a Ams vsr intake manifold.Im torn between 2 turbo kits,I can get a buschur htga35r with tubular manifold for a good price,but have m heart set on a AMS v-band turbo kit with fp 58/58 bb.Love the idea of a quicker spool-up
What do you guys think would be a better set up for me
What do you guys think would be a better set up for me
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