Hey Ted

Are you asking where to find the ZDDP numbers ?

But in reference to the ILSAC and API designations here is an example of an AMSOIL product with the proper designation.
http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-produc...?code=OETQT-EA

 

You obviously didnt read it at all. It doesnt say anything about a journal bearing or a turbo for that matter. Nice try. There trying to keep tools like you from blowing up there own car.

 

Actually....

If you contact FP directly they will respond with the following(I asked about them about BradPenn, Amsoil, E85, cold conditions and so forth):

 

I also wanted add that if you have the money to change the oil every 3-5k miles with more expensive oil than BP and the engine needs 50 weight, using some 0, 5, or 10w-50 is a great idea as it will flow excellent when cold and on start up and it's still going to be 50 weight when you need to be. Down side is that with that much difference in weights, it will break down faster hence the need to change more often.

 

You have no idea WTF you are talking about. You got swept into the heard without doing any thinking for yourself. Look at the bearing they show in the link. Where the **** in your MOTOR does that go?? THINK, READ, RESEARCH it'll do you some good. Maybe you can break free from the heard one day


Sad Sad world


My car running hahahaha. 150k+ and never seen a drop oh snake oil in its life

 

And there you go. Right from the damn horses mouth. Ted even touch on it in this thread and many others.

Man oh man.

 

UPDATE

Here are several popular synthetic oils that meet both API-SN/ILSAC GF-5 standards for E85 compatibility and contain at least 1000 ppm ZDDP. For those with an FP Red or Black, I would stick with 1200 ppm ZDDP or better as per FP's recommendation.

Mobil 1
0w-40 (1000)
5w-40 Turbo Diesel Truck (1130)
10w-40 High Mileage (1000)
Racing 4T 10w-40 (1200)
5w-50 (1000)
15w-50 (1200)

Amsoil
All automotive oils are formulated for E85 compatibility.
Z-Rod and Dominator series are formulated with elevated (1200+ ppm) ZDDP content.

Royal Purple
Standard oils are API-SN licensed and compatible with E85.
HPS series feature elevated ZDDP (1200+ ppm) and formulated to be compatible with E85.
XPR series feature elevated ZDDP (1200+ ppm) and formulated to be compatible with E85 + exotic and corrosive fuels.

Valvoline
VR1 features elevated ZDDP (1200 ppm), only 20w-50 grade API-SN licensed.

Undoubtedly there are others, but this should be helpful.

 

Perhaps, do you think it is possible, just possible, that the oil you ran that entire time could have led to the bearing deteriorating overtime and when you changed to a different oil that it just so happened your bearing spun?

Not that I am a RP fanboy. I don't even use RP. But I try and look at things as fair as I can and looking at every possible situation. Are there any more cases of people doing similar things that had engine failures when they switched too or utilize RP?

 

personally I think you are doing a disservice . I guess you are just one of those guys that gets too wrapped up in details sometimes. this thread was supposed to be about whether it is safe to run E85 with brad penn oil . I have used most all those oils you have listed and brad penn works far better hands down. its not even a comparison as I see it. the base stock for penn oil is something very , very special. I and many ,many ,many others have been using it with e85 with no ill affects. I feel sorry for those who have to read pages and pages sometimes just to get a simple answer.

 

Actually E85 wasn't even part of the original topic. Just look at the title and read the first post.

 

The simple answer to an important question has been posted both here and elsewhere:

http://www.penngrade1.com/CMSFiles/F..._BRAD_PENN.pdf

This warning shouldn't be assumed to be limited to just Brad Penn oils.

As for wanting to argue with me about the assessments of ILSAC, API, and the engineers who formulated the oil in your own car, you're barking up the wrong tree.

 

Anythings possible... I'm not going to argue about it. People can do whatever they want. They can even take Ted's advice and put Mobil 1 in their high performance engine. Have at it. Whatever...

 

i use the amsoil 15.50 racing oil. i run E85 as well and haven't seen any issues with this. i do how ever change my oil every time i go racing. so it basically never see's more then 100 miles so it may not have time to allow any ill effects.

 

yeah but all that arose from just one guy who had his oil turn to sludge. there are hundreds on here who use BP with E85. hundreds. no ill effects. didnt it occur to anybody that maybe there was another reason for the sludge in that one particular case?

 

The Mobil 1 15w-50 recommendation comes straight from Brad Penn, FWIW.


This isn't about a single incident. The Brad Penn document is refers to failures in plural, also including vehicles whose description does not match an EVO (read it carefully). I view this like I view E85 and Walbro 255s. Many have done it without issue, and then there are a handful that have failed catastrophically without warning. Taking that risk is a individual decision, but the risk exists nonetheless.