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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 03:57 PM
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stock injectors

just wondering when i am going to be maxing the stock injectors out... the stocks are 550 right? so i guess the question is, when am i supposed to upgrade?

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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 04:35 PM
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close, they are 525cc, you can take more advantage of the stock injectors, by using a 255lph fuel pump.

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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 07:02 PM
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id upgrade when you pass about 300 whp, but I guess once you get cams etc.... depends I guess

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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 07:47 PM
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If you plan on upgrading your turbo, upgrade your injectors. Stock injectors should be good <350whp. Using Jeff Hill from Turbotrix as an example, he made 351whp with 315 ft lbs of trq with the stock front mount and stock injectors.
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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 07:58 PM
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i heared they are 85% tapped stock, id upgrade sooner than 350whp

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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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I have not heard that personally, so I can't really comment on that, but the guys at Turbotrix say that the stock injectors are fine for 'mild modding'. All I can really say about our injectors are that i'll be upgrading mine just as a safety percaution before I upgrade my turbo.
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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 09:42 PM
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i think i'm just going to go with the fuel pump and also get an air fuel ratio gauge... With the gauge i should be able to tell when i'm going to need to upgrade right?

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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 08:04 PM
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be careful what AFR gauge you get..some are worth it, others are collasal wastes of money
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 05:01 PM
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be careful what AFR gauge you get..some are worth it, others are collasal wastes of money
which one would you recomend??

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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 05:32 PM
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One of the wibeband sensors like these:
http://www.urdusa.com/Merchant2/merc...gory_Code=PERF

http://www.widebandcommander.com/productinfo.htm

http://www.turboxs.com/txstuner.htm

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/index.html
I have the last one and it works great for tuning fuel.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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isn't there a gauge that can read air to fuel ratio??? ex. a gauge made by defi, hks, greddy.... etc.... that can fit in a gauge pod..

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Ben

another thought... i've seen just the cable for the wideband (i think). do you think that i could hook that up to a regular air/fuel gauge from one of the brands above?

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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 07:49 AM
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you're thinking of a narrowband?
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 07:56 AM
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The stock EVO injectors are 560 cc actually.

We have made 361 whp and 303 ft lbs. The car ran a 12.09 at 115 mph on 94 octane like this.

The stock injectors with a pump upgrade should be able to make over 400 whp in the car with the correct tuning.

David Buschur
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 08:06 AM
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Originally posted by davidbuschur
The stock EVO injectors are 560 cc actually.

We have made 361 whp and 303 ft lbs. The car ran a 12.09 at 115 mph on 94 octane like this.

The stock injectors with a pump upgrade should be able to make over 400 whp in the car with the correct tuning.

David Buschur
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Crap !!! and I just ordered some 660s and a pump.
I put in cams so I thought it was a wise precaution.
But I don't believe I'm going to get near 400whp.
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 09:15 AM
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Originally posted by davidbuschur
The stock EVO injectors are 560 cc actually.

We have made 361 whp and 303 ft lbs. The car ran a 12.09 at 115 mph on 94 octane like this.

The stock injectors with a pump upgrade should be able to make over 400 whp in the car with the correct tuning.

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
What's the duty cycle and fuel pressure at this power level though? I'm afraid of the wear and tear on the injectors and fuel pump if this comes from high duty cycles and high fuel pressure. Throw some numbers at us David. My right foot rests on the firewall daily
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