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Old Sep 9, 2014 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by evodan2004
My one piece carbon does not have one but also my engine/trans is solidly mounted. I'd assume it would not be needed?
I was wondering about this with you one piece driveshaft. With it being one piece I'm assuming it must have some give so that if you do a hard launch or do a hard downshift it doesn't break or possibly form a stress crack.
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Old Sep 9, 2014 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by xXANCHORMONXx
I was wondering about this with you one piece driveshaft. With it being one piece I'm assuming it must have some give so that if you do a hard launch or do a hard downshift it doesn't break or possibly form a stress crack.
My engine is basically solidly mounted so I would have less movement or flex then most guys with stock or poly mounts. I have has the car upto 130mph and it is still dead smooth.

I'm just curious if it would be needed or not.
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Old Sep 9, 2014 | 07:06 PM
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Had the protractor on it but did not write it down.

I am up in BC but come to Portland occasionally. Car is usually serviced at ER. Would be great to meet sometime. Always love your posts ...

Originally Posted by mrfred
Sounds like you have some prior experience with driveshafts. Two of my previous cars has driveshaft alignment issues, so I learned a bunch about building a good one. Have you by chance tried to measure out the angles/offets, and path for an Evo 8/9 driveshaft to see how optimal it is for u-joints only?

At any rate, its good to know that it reduces the driveline lash and is still smooth. If you are in the Portland area, it would be great if I could take it for a spin.
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Old Sep 9, 2014 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by alleggerita
Had the protractor on it but did not write it down.

I am up in BC but come to Portland occasionally. Car is usually serviced at ER. Would be great to meet sometime. Always love your posts ...
Thanks. Shoot me a PM if you're ever in the area and want to meet up...
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by evodan2004
My one piece carbon does not have one but also my engine/trans is solidly mounted. I'd assume it would not be needed?
right. if you limit movement of engine and rear end you shouldnt have a worry at all. there are plenty of two piece shafts being run with no CV joint. and no reported issues that I am aware of. If there is an effect it would be accelerated wear on the input spines/yoke . but surely it takes a long time before its an issue.

here is a pic of the two piece shaft I made for the evo 4. original shaft weighs 41lbs. shaved 15lbs and it cost me less than 200 in materials since I utilized a factory mazda rx8 carbon shaft for rear section.. the evo 4 uses two cv joints. yikes. car drive much nicer with the two piece shaft





I have been planning but struggling for a driveshaft solution for my evo 1. would like to shave 8-10 lbs but will be a tall order as it already weighs 30.5 stock. the evo 8/9 shafts are 39.5lbs. funny a couple months ago found a guy in the UK that got his hands on some 2 piece titanium shafts from a evo x race team. he was converting them to work on evo 6 8 and 9. they weighed just 12.5 pounds!!. i wanted one bad but he was asking like 4500 for them.

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Old Nov 2, 2014 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by alleggerita
Probably not the best person for evaluating the dreaded clunk. No clunk since the shaft but I didn't have a lot before. Still on stock clutch with pill - so the car has never been launched that hard.

http://www.billsenglewooddriveshaft.com/upload/100.JPG
Any updates on the driveshaft? How's it holding up?
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Old Nov 2, 2014 | 06:03 PM
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Runs true, no vibrations, no clunk, no problems whatsoever.

Car is way more enjoyable as DD as it no longer needs dipping into the throttle for take-off. The rubbery driveline quality is gone and the stock clutch actually feels crisp now.

Car feels more lively and peppy at a wide range of speeds. Fuel consumption unchanged.



Originally Posted by caLi4G63
Any updates on the driveshaft? How's it holding up?
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Old Sep 6, 2015 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 94AWDcoupe
right. if you limit movement of engine and rear end you shouldnt have a worry at all. there are plenty of two piece shafts being run with no CV joint. and no reported issues that I am aware of. If there is an effect it would be accelerated wear on the input spines/yoke . but surely it takes a long time before its an issue.

here is a pic of the two piece shaft I made for the evo 4. original shaft weighs 41lbs. shaved 15lbs and it cost me less than 200 in materials since I utilized a factory mazda rx8 carbon shaft for rear section.. the evo 4 uses two cv joints. yikes. car drive much nicer with the two piece shaft





I have been planning but struggling for a driveshaft solution for my evo 1. would like to shave 8-10 lbs but will be a tall order as it already weighs 30.5 stock. the evo 8/9 shafts are 39.5lbs. funny a couple months ago found a guy in the UK that got his hands on some 2 piece titanium shafts from a evo x race team. he was converting them to work on evo 6 8 and 9. they weighed just 12.5 pounds!!. i wanted one bad but he was asking like 4500 for them.

How did you adapt/connect the forward end of the rx8 shaft to the Evo 1 center cv joint?
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Old Sep 7, 2015 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by marck_c
How did you adapt/connect the forward end of the rx8 shaft to the Evo 1 center cv joint?
there is a steel tube inside the end of carbon shaft. its long enough that it can be cut and welded without hurting the glued connection. you can weld any kind of end onto the shaft that is needed. its just the same as building a steel shaft.
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Old Sep 7, 2015 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 94AWDcoupe
there is a steel tube inside the end of carbon shaft. its long enough that it can be cut and welded without hurting the glued connection. you can weld any kind of end onto the shaft that is needed. its just the same as building a steel shaft.
Ok thanks, I think I've got it now. Do you recall the approximate weight on these units?
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Old Sep 7, 2015 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by marck_c
Ok thanks, I think I've got it now. Do you recall the approximate weight on these units?
its not as light as some of the after market. its a factory piece so its over built so to speak. most of the weight savings comes from eliminating joints. especially when its a lobro joint
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Old Sep 7, 2015 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 94AWDcoupe
its not as light as some of the after market. its a factory piece so its over built so to speak. most of the weight savings comes from eliminating joints. especially when its a lobro joint
According to these guys, its about 10.5 lbs

http://www.ingearperformance.com/page/3
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