Can't break into the 9's...
Jun 25, 2014, 10:05 AM
#1
Can't break into the 9's...
Seems like I've done every mod to this Evo and I STILL can't break into the 9's. Car weighs 3000lbs without me and is making 650whp uncorrected on a Mustang in Denver at 5280 feet. Keep in mind its harder to make more power up here at this altitude. My boost is set at 38 psi and I think we're choking the T3 housing so T4 twin scroll housing/manifold is next but I would think I could at least break into the 9's with the current setup. My trap speed is pretty high.
I know theres some room for improvement on my 60'. Should I be staging with my ebrake and would that help improve my time? Any suggestions?
List of mods off the top of my head:
2.4 LR
JE Pistons 10:1
MAP Ultimate Rods
CNC ported head with 1mm oversized valves
Kiggley Beehive Springs and light weight retainers
Kiggely Oil Regulator
ARP Main studs
ARP L-19 head studs
Cometic Head gasket
GSC S3 Cams
Magnus Intake Manifold
Boomba 75mm throttle body
Full race exhaust manifold..
Precision 6766 turbo T3 .82 AR
Tial 38 mm waste gate
Custom 3" downpipe
3.5" Exhaust
Custom 3" upper intercooler pipe, 2.5" lower
ETS 4" FMIC black anodized
Tial 50mm b.o.v.
Aeromotive fuel rail
8AN braided fuel line from tank
Aeromotive FPR
FIC 2150 injectors
2 A1000 pumps with surge tank
Sparktech Coil on Plug ignition
M&W Ignition
AEM EMS
Exedy HD triple clutch
Baer brake rotors front and rear (lighter weight)
Englewood Driveshaft custom 2 piece alum driveshaft
Buschur mustache eliminator and rear diff supports
26" Hoosier slicks with Motegi wheeels (28 lbs each)
I know theres some room for improvement on my 60'. Should I be staging with my ebrake and would that help improve my time? Any suggestions?
List of mods off the top of my head:
2.4 LR
JE Pistons 10:1
MAP Ultimate Rods
CNC ported head with 1mm oversized valves
Kiggley Beehive Springs and light weight retainers
Kiggely Oil Regulator
ARP Main studs
ARP L-19 head studs
Cometic Head gasket
GSC S3 Cams
Magnus Intake Manifold
Boomba 75mm throttle body
Full race exhaust manifold..
Precision 6766 turbo T3 .82 AR
Tial 38 mm waste gate
Custom 3" downpipe
3.5" Exhaust
Custom 3" upper intercooler pipe, 2.5" lower
ETS 4" FMIC black anodized
Tial 50mm b.o.v.
Aeromotive fuel rail
8AN braided fuel line from tank
Aeromotive FPR
FIC 2150 injectors
2 A1000 pumps with surge tank
Sparktech Coil on Plug ignition
M&W Ignition
AEM EMS
Exedy HD triple clutch
Baer brake rotors front and rear (lighter weight)
Englewood Driveshaft custom 2 piece alum driveshaft
Buschur mustache eliminator and rear diff supports
26" Hoosier slicks with Motegi wheeels (28 lbs each)
Last edited by rodent; Jun 25, 2014 at 10:08 AM.
Jun 25, 2014, 10:14 AM
#3
AWD Motorsports D2 coilovers with drag spec springs
http://www.streettunedmotorsports.co..._coilovers.htm
http://www.streettunedmotorsports.co..._coilovers.htm
Jun 25, 2014, 10:16 AM
#4
What MPH are you shifting into 2nd gear? Are you sure the car has full traction before going into 2nd? Try getting your clutch out a bit faster, and also, are you using NLTS? That will help a lot.
Also, that is a huge turbo for only 143mph. Most people in your MPH range are running a 62mm. Maybe downgrade your turbo for something more responsive?
Car will go 9s, it just needs proper driving. Unfortunately its hard to study off that video with that crazy loud integra.
Also, that is a huge turbo for only 143mph. Most people in your MPH range are running a 62mm. Maybe downgrade your turbo for something more responsive?
Car will go 9s, it just needs proper driving. Unfortunately its hard to study off that video with that crazy loud integra.
Last edited by badev0; Jun 25, 2014 at 10:20 AM.
Jun 25, 2014, 10:28 AM
#5
What MPH are you shifting into 2nd gear? Are you sure the car has full traction before going into 2nd? Try getting your clutch out a bit faster, and also, are you using NLTS? That will help a lot.
Also, that is a huge turbo for only 143mph. Most people in your MPH range are running a 62mm. Maybe downgrade your turbo for something more responsive?
Car will go 9s, it just needs proper driving. Unfortunately its hard to study off that video with that crazy loud integra.
Also, that is a huge turbo for only 143mph. Most people in your MPH range are running a 62mm. Maybe downgrade your turbo for something more responsive?
Car will go 9s, it just needs proper driving. Unfortunately its hard to study off that video with that crazy loud integra.
Here's a few more videos when I was running a 2.0 with a 3586.
outside:
Jun 25, 2014, 10:39 AM
#6
And here's Carz Evo running the same track with the same turbo with similar MPH but its a lighter car-
List of his mods here:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sa...elevation.html
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sa...elevation.html
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Jun 25, 2014, 01:23 PM
#10
Trust me, I ran about 90 10.0's... The wall/struggle between 10.0 and 9.9 is real.
Normally you need to sit on the limiter a bit before going into 2nd until you you feel that forward momentum throw you back into your seat (traction) after the initial launch.
Normally you need to sit on the limiter a bit before going into 2nd until you you feel that forward momentum throw you back into your seat (traction) after the initial launch.
Jun 25, 2014, 01:33 PM
#11
Just for discussion here is a 9 sec slip from 2011 that shows the incrementals to compare.
Of course this was at a track much closer to sea level (sorry don't know what the DA was that day)
My car weighed roughly 3030 w/ me in it and all safety stuff needed to run sub 10.0
It looks as though the 330' is the key as with most it's likely the 1-2 shift as you can see that 1 tenth difference at the 330' mark turn into the difference of a 9.999 sec pass vs a 10.248
You actually had me by .01 in the 60'
Best of luck reaching your goal
Of course this was at a track much closer to sea level (sorry don't know what the DA was that day)
My car weighed roughly 3030 w/ me in it and all safety stuff needed to run sub 10.0
It looks as though the 330' is the key as with most it's likely the 1-2 shift as you can see that 1 tenth difference at the 330' mark turn into the difference of a 9.999 sec pass vs a 10.248
You actually had me by .01 in the 60'
Best of luck reaching your goal
Last edited by PATRICK B.; Jun 25, 2014 at 01:47 PM.
Jun 25, 2014, 01:38 PM
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I fill you man I leave in Colorado and is more difficult to make numbers that in sea level I talk to a lot of tuner and they have the same respond. is the altitude you will be killing in sea level.
Jun 25, 2014, 02:29 PM
#14
Just for discussion here is a 9 sec slip from 2011 that shows the incrementals to compare.
Of course this was at a track much closer to sea level (sorry don't know what the DA was that day)
My car weighed roughly 3030 w/ me in it and all safety stuff needed to run sub 10.0
It looks as though the 330' is the key as with most it's likely the 1-2 shift as you can see that 1 tenth difference at the 330' mark turn into the difference of a 9.999 sec pass vs a 10.248
You actually had me by .01 in the 60'
Best of luck reaching your goal
Of course this was at a track much closer to sea level (sorry don't know what the DA was that day)
My car weighed roughly 3030 w/ me in it and all safety stuff needed to run sub 10.0
It looks as though the 330' is the key as with most it's likely the 1-2 shift as you can see that 1 tenth difference at the 330' mark turn into the difference of a 9.999 sec pass vs a 10.248
You actually had me by .01 in the 60'
Best of luck reaching your goal
I'd love to take car down to sea level, get it re-tuned and run the 1/4 mile just to see what it would do and feel the power. When it comes to performance vehicles, it sucks living up at this altitude!
Last edited by rodent; Jun 25, 2014 at 02:31 PM.