Best Clutch for 300WHP EVO?
I went with the HKS GD Max twin disc with flywheel and I love it the twin disc grabs and allows me to slip the clutch when drag racing off the line it also has very little pedel pressure so it is very easy to drive every day if you choose to do so...
Originally posted by Z1 Performance
one uses a spring hub, one uses a solid hub. Solid hub is not nice to drive on the street at all - just hooks and goes. The spring hub is much easier to modulate the pedal on, and far less prone to chatter on takeoff. Much more driveable clutch all around
one uses a spring hub, one uses a solid hub. Solid hub is not nice to drive on the street at all - just hooks and goes. The spring hub is much easier to modulate the pedal on, and far less prone to chatter on takeoff. Much more driveable clutch all around
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Originally posted by gldenchld
Your all forgetting the Unorthodox Racing Ceramic setup, stock pedal feel, stock driveability , with no clutch chatter. And oh its good for around 500 whp.
Your all forgetting the Unorthodox Racing Ceramic setup, stock pedal feel, stock driveability , with no clutch chatter. And oh its good for around 500 whp.
Originally posted by MrBonus
I would imagine a solid hub would wreak havoc on other drivetrain parts with the regular shock it puts on the system also.
I would imagine a solid hub would wreak havoc on other drivetrain parts with the regular shock it puts on the system also.
Z1 wasn't accurate in his message about the solid vs. spring and the springs giving smoother engagement. Much the opposite. Actually the spring center ceramic will chatter worse than a solid one, if both use an equally aggressive friction material. Chatter occurs when using an aggressive friction material. As the engine winds up in the mounts when the clutch is being engaged, the clutch disengages briefly causing the engine to **** back. This may happen a few times a second. This is typical of aggressive materials and the reason stock clutches do not use aggressive friction materials. What the springs do in this case is allow for more wind up and therefore increase chatter. If you get rid of the windup (solid engine mounts, solid disc) you will not have chatter even with a real aggressive material. The problem is that you get vibration, noise, etc. which is undesirable in a street car.
Originally posted by ACTman
Sometimes it does cause more wear on driveline parts, not from shock, but from vibration. It depends on vehicle type. The springs aren't strong enough to prevent shock, such as when you dump the clutch launching. They bottom out way too soon for that. The spring's primary job is to dampen torsional vibrations to keep them from transmitting noise in the transmission. On certain vehicles this vibration will wear gears, etc. on the transmission. On other vehicles, it has no affect, other than noise.
Z1 wasn't accurate in his message about the solid vs. spring and the springs giving smoother engagement. Much the opposite. Actually the spring center ceramic will chatter worse than a solid one, if both use an equally aggressive friction material. Chatter occurs when using an aggressive friction material. As the engine winds up in the mounts when the clutch is being engaged, the clutch disengages briefly causing the engine to **** back. This may happen a few times a second. This is typical of aggressive materials and the reason stock clutches do not use aggressive friction materials. What the springs do in this case is allow for more wind up and therefore increase chatter. If you get rid of the windup (solid engine mounts, solid disc) you will not have chatter even with a real aggressive material. The problem is that you get vibration, noise, etc. which is undesirable in a street car.
Sometimes it does cause more wear on driveline parts, not from shock, but from vibration. It depends on vehicle type. The springs aren't strong enough to prevent shock, such as when you dump the clutch launching. They bottom out way too soon for that. The spring's primary job is to dampen torsional vibrations to keep them from transmitting noise in the transmission. On certain vehicles this vibration will wear gears, etc. on the transmission. On other vehicles, it has no affect, other than noise.
Z1 wasn't accurate in his message about the solid vs. spring and the springs giving smoother engagement. Much the opposite. Actually the spring center ceramic will chatter worse than a solid one, if both use an equally aggressive friction material. Chatter occurs when using an aggressive friction material. As the engine winds up in the mounts when the clutch is being engaged, the clutch disengages briefly causing the engine to **** back. This may happen a few times a second. This is typical of aggressive materials and the reason stock clutches do not use aggressive friction materials. What the springs do in this case is allow for more wind up and therefore increase chatter. If you get rid of the windup (solid engine mounts, solid disc) you will not have chatter even with a real aggressive material. The problem is that you get vibration, noise, etc. which is undesirable in a street car.
Originally posted by ACTman
As the engine winds up in the mounts when the clutch is being engaged, the clutch disengages briefly causing the engine to **** back.
As the engine winds up in the mounts when the clutch is being engaged, the clutch disengages briefly causing the engine to **** back.
ACT will you be able to explain why does my stock Clutch, Stock car chatter every morning before its COMPLETLY warmed up?? Even some times when its warm it will chatter but not much?? I don’t think that the stock clutch is using aggrieve material. My clutch is not slipping at all.
Originally posted by ACTman
LOL. I can't believe they took the word out. I didn't mean to be offensive. Just to clarify things a bit: I am describing a bouncing back, or recoil (not the male anatomy).
LOL. I can't believe they took the word out. I didn't mean to be offensive. Just to clarify things a bit: I am describing a bouncing back, or recoil (not the male anatomy).
Originally posted by Az3ar
ACT will you be able to explain why does my stock Clutch, Stock car chatter every morning before its COMPLETLY warmed up?? Even some times when its warm it will chatter but not much?? I don’t think that the stock clutch is using aggrieve material. My clutch is not slipping at all.
ACT will you be able to explain why does my stock Clutch, Stock car chatter every morning before its COMPLETLY warmed up?? Even some times when its warm it will chatter but not much?? I don’t think that the stock clutch is using aggrieve material. My clutch is not slipping at all.
I am sure I missed at least a couple other causes. In your case, I am sure the car is pretty new, which makes me real suspicious of the release bearing, since I have heard of occassional problems. What does the dealer say?
Originally posted by jemm
ACTman ... can the Street Clutch kit for the E8 work for the Evo 7?
- i presume so as the splines are the same etc..
thanks
ACTman ... can the Street Clutch kit for the E8 work for the Evo 7?
- i presume so as the splines are the same etc..
thanks
The dealers are num heads like always.
they will tare the car apart and then shake their heads???The car has 13000 miles. never draged raced or anything. Plus if it is engine mounts or suspension are loose it would happend more often or always. Once the car is warm it drives like a champ. I will take it to the dealer but i dont want them to take my clutch apart and ask for money.
they will tare the car apart and then shake their heads???The car has 13000 miles. never draged raced or anything. Plus if it is engine mounts or suspension are loose it would happend more often or always. Once the car is warm it drives like a champ. I will take it to the dealer but i dont want them to take my clutch apart and ask for money.




