FP ss vs mhi black
FWIW, my turbo sees 20psi at 3400 rpm. I use that around town a Hell of a lot more than I would 600whp @ 7500rpm.
It's all about how you want the car to feel.
I autox and road race, so i like a useable power band that hits as soon as I crack the throttle open.
Others like a sudden rush at the top end because it feels faster.
Decide how you want the car to behave, then go from there.
It's all about how you want the car to feel.
I autox and road race, so i like a useable power band that hits as soon as I crack the throttle open.
Others like a sudden rush at the top end because it feels faster.
Decide how you want the car to behave, then go from there.
What are you talking about?
What would be the point of a SS housing on an FP Green?
The great thing about the OEM turbos, is that you're squeezing every last drop out of a housing that wasn't really meant for it and you still get the benefits of the TS.
If you have a SS FP Red or Black, you may as well just go T3 or T4 in my opinion.
What would be the point of a SS housing on an FP Green?
The great thing about the OEM turbos, is that you're squeezing every last drop out of a housing that wasn't really meant for it and you still get the benefits of the TS.
If you have a SS FP Red or Black, you may as well just go T3 or T4 in my opinion.
the mhi housings have their place but they are a bottleneck, plain and simple.
i have a ss green. it really wasnt rocket surgery making it work with all my existing parts.
saying theres never a use for the ss housings is extremely short sighted and ignorant.
But for the price are you kidding? the turbo was a grand the oil line was 150 bucks the o2 housing was 190 bucks and I got a wastegate for 90 bucks. Stm intake was only 150. Im not seeing how these cost anywhere close to a T3 set up now that FP has released the o2 housing. Cheapest new T3 kit I could find was 3300 from MAP. I have way less then 2k in my fpblack set up.
you need to understand not everyone is focused only on better peak numbers.
the ss housing flows more so the system is more efficient. i dont understand what is so hard about that concept.
the mhi housings have their place but they are a bottleneck, plain and simple.
i have a ss green. it really wasnt rocket surgery making it work with all my existing parts.
saying theres never a use for the ss housings is extremely short sighted and ignorant.
the mhi housings have their place but they are a bottleneck, plain and simple.
i have a ss green. it really wasnt rocket surgery making it work with all my existing parts.
saying theres never a use for the ss housings is extremely short sighted and ignorant.
Now you have a turbo that will spool more like a red and will probably make less than an MHI Red.
I never said there is never a case for them. I completely understand the reasons for the SS housing on a Zero and Zephyr. But putting a SS housing on a Green, Red and even Black (unless you want to squeeze out 700hp) makes me scratch my head, because you ruin half of what makes those turbos so awesome...greatvspool relative to comp wheel size.
Last edited by Erik@MIL.SPEC; Feb 7, 2016 at 03:33 PM.
my slow-spooling turbo is still faster than me. i see....
the MHI housings are all but used up, so FP had to do something to keep selling turbos, i guess?. i can see how they thought the SS one is a step in the right direction. they flow better and make more power, so maybe they figured that was a fair trade off.
for a lot of us (from what i can tell), the SS does away with the reason we all stuck with stock-framed turbos.
it seems to me: had they replicated the MHI housing in iron or SS, they would sell like hotcakes.
that being said, they are cheaper than a T3 option so i'd shop FP before Precision, etc.
Yes. I think we're all aware that the SS flows more. But if you have a SS Green, IMHO you're ruining the characteristics of what makes that turbo so fun...a 500whp turbo with great spool.
Now you have a turbo that will spool more like a red and will probably make less than an MHI Red.
I never said there is never a case for them. I completely understand the reasons for the SS housing on a Zero and Zephyr. But putting a SS housing on a Green, Red and even Black (unless you want to squeeze out 700hp) makes me scratch my head, because you ruin half of what makes those turbos so awesome...greatvspool relative to comp wheel size.
Now you have a turbo that will spool more like a red and will probably make less than an MHI Red.
I never said there is never a case for them. I completely understand the reasons for the SS housing on a Zero and Zephyr. But putting a SS housing on a Green, Red and even Black (unless you want to squeeze out 700hp) makes me scratch my head, because you ruin half of what makes those turbos so awesome...greatvspool relative to comp wheel size.
for a lot of us (from what i can tell), the SS does away with the reason we all stuck with stock-framed turbos.
it seems to me: had they replicated the MHI housing in iron or SS, they would sell like hotcakes.
that being said, they are cheaper than a T3 option so i'd shop FP before Precision, etc.
Big fan of the MHI housing on the Green/Red/Black for a street car. This setup responds almost like the stock turbo but doesn't fall off. If you have proper boost control you can have a great powerband. I'm able to autox this setup or just about anything else.
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at what RPM are you hitting 300ftlbs?
Big fan of the MHI housing on the Green/Red/Black for a street car. This setup responds almost like the stock turbo but doesn't fall off. If you have proper boost control you can have a great powerband. I'm able to autox this setup or just about anything else.
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