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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 07:46 AM
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Tomei Crank Slicer & Baffle Questions

Hoping to get more info on this kit - namely specs!

Bought this kit, trying to make sure it gets installed correctly -

1)how far from the crank should all of these slicers be?
2) does that into consideration metal expansion from the slicers & the crank?
3) what are the torque specs for the bolts that need to be removed?
4) do you guys use any Loctite on the threads when bolting these parts on?
5) any other considerations?

Some other info here:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...k-scraper.html

http://www.tomeiusa.com/_2003web-cat...B_oillube.html

Update:: Specs were included with the kit:

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Old Jun 25, 2016 | 07:41 PM
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bumping - instructions were included so i scanned them for anyone interested.

Is step 1 - Install the Light Plate the "3rd" piece of the scraper?

They don't seem to really mention clearance specs though, so I guess there's not that much play in it
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Old Jun 27, 2016 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by kyoo
bumping - instructions were included so i scanned them for anyone interested.

Is step 1 - Install the Light Plate the "3rd" piece of the scraper?

They don't seem to really mention clearance specs though, so I guess there's not that much play in it
Yup, "light plate" is the other half of the scrapper.

Center plate is the windage tray and the lift plate is the 2nd part of the scrapper.
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Old Jun 27, 2016 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Erik@MIL.SPEC
Yup, "light plate" is the other half of the scrapper.

Center plate is the windage tray and the lift plate is the 2nd part of the scrapper.
thanks. shop is installing today while I'm at work, asked him to snag a pic for me of it all installed. I think as long as it clears + some margin for heat expansion (?) we're all good.
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Old Jun 27, 2016 | 06:09 PM
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shop took the pic for me - was told it has pretty decent clearance everywhere:

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Did the shop adjust the scraper clearance? (Closer than as is?)

I don't remember what was the clearance as installed, but I left it as is when I did mine though.
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Originally Posted by ace33joe
Did the shop adjust the scraper clearance? (Closer than as is?)

I don't remember what was the clearance as installed, but I left it as is when I did mine though.
good to know. neither did our shop, installed as is.
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Since crank rotational speed is high, not sure how propotional it would be between the scraping efficiency and clearance.

Don't think oil would be coated uniformly on the edge of crankshaft counter weight like those Lucas oil stabilizer gear box display at auto part shops.

But I can imagine it would be more like violant tornado of oil droplets at high rpm, so even "as-is" clearance might still be effective collecting some and let them drained into oil pan.

Interesting idea of using teflon blade that is made to "touch" the crank is shown at this link:

http://www.crank-scrapers.com/ebay%20ads/ebay_index.htm

But don't think I would try that myself.
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Old Jun 28, 2016 | 11:16 PM
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I did some reading on crank scrappers the past few days. I forget which engine, but in the 60's (I think Chrysler) added ppers to their engines after taking the oil pans off and seeing no oil in the pan over 6,000 rpms or something.

I'd have to go look it up for the exact quote, but I found that piece of information interesting.
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Originally Posted by ace33joe
Since crank rotational speed is high, not sure how propotional it would be between the scraping efficiency and clearance.

Don't think oil would be coated uniformly on the edge of crankshaft counter weight like those Lucas oil stabilizer gear box display at auto part shops.

But I can imagine it would be more like violant tornado of oil droplets at high rpm, so even "as-is" clearance might still be effective collecting some and let them drained into oil pan.

Interesting idea of using teflon blade that is made to "touch" the crank is shown at this link:

http://www.crank-scrapers.com/ebay%20ads/ebay_index.htm

But don't think I would try that myself.
ha - that's very interested - I don't think I would try it either, but interesting concept. I think any amount of relative closeness is going to get a good amount off. aside from what's coating the crank, I think most of it is being flung around

Originally Posted by Erik@MIL.SPEC
I did some reading on crank scrappers the past few days. I forget which engine, but in the 60's (I think Chrysler) added ppers to their engines after taking the oil pans off and seeing no oil in the pan over 6,000 rpms or something.

I'd have to go look it up for the exact quote, but I found that piece of information interesting.
interesting.. I wish we could see a see through cutout to see how much oil is flinging where without a crank scraper on the crank
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 01:26 PM
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Jesus Christ, dude. LOL

Just put the ****ing thing on according to the instructions, torque to spec, and drive the ****ing car, man. LOL
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Jesus Christ, dude. LOL

Just put the ****ing thing on according to the instructions, torque to spec, and drive the ****ing car, man. LOL
I think he did that already

But I find the teflon scrappers interesting.
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 01:47 PM
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yup, it's on the car and drives fine lol - I thought the Teflon scrapers were interesting too, purely from an intellectual standpoint. the wear of the Teflon has to go into the oil, though I guess it wouldn't take much to do that and do a quick flush. personally wouldn't do it though, just because lol. I'm not sure how much tolerance I have, but it's in and I'm good! Car is driving better than ever
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by kyoo
yup, it's on the car and drives fine lol - I thought the Teflon scrapers were interesting too, purely from an intellectual standpoint. the wear of the Teflon has to go into the oil, though I guess it wouldn't take much to do that and do a quick flush. personally wouldn't do it though, just because lol. I'm not sure how much tolerance I have, but it's in and I'm good! Car is driving better than ever
Awesome, dude! Congrats!

Teflon scraper. Hm....
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