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Old Aug 1, 2016 | 01:42 AM
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4G64 Maximizing Displacement

I'm not familiar with the 4G64 engine, what's the max displacement you could get out of a 4G64? Is there such thing as a strokered 4G64?
The application is an AutoX car which is currently 2.3L 4G63. The circuits are short & full of twists, turns, & circles so high torque is a must, thus I'm considering maximizing engine displacement.
The plan is to use a 4G64 with forged internals with an Evo 9 mivec head, I'm trying to list the modifications required for such combo:
What type of head gasket?
What type of cylinder & head bolts
Head oil feed?
Water pump modification?
Oil pan modification?

Is there any vendor/s that offer a complete kit for such engine swap?
I'd appreciate any information
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Old Aug 1, 2016 | 01:44 AM
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You can do a 2.4 stroker
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Old Aug 1, 2016 | 06:37 AM
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I'm hoping for something like 2.6L I found an old thread about a BC 2.6 stroker kit for the 4G64, sounds interesting! What other manufacturers offer such stroker kits for the 4G64?
What supporting mods do I need for such combo, 4G46 with E9 Mivec head?

Water pump adapter, head gasket, head oil feed line.... what about the oil pan?
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Old Aug 1, 2016 | 07:25 AM
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Why would you want to go w/ a 2.6?

A 2.4 motor w/ a smaller/med turbo will be more than sufficient for auto-x
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Old Aug 1, 2016 | 07:55 AM
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Well, I already have a 2.3L & I'm seeking some significant improvement.
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Old Aug 1, 2016 | 09:03 AM
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Get a car with a v8. The 100mm crank is already questionable enough in regards to reliability. If a 2.3L with a small turbo like a bbk full, FP green, or even a stock turbo isn't torque enough for you, you need to move to a different vehicle.

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Old Aug 1, 2016 | 02:30 PM
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a long rod 2.4 with a modern turbo will give you all the TQ to break the drivetrain.. no need for 2.6
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Old Aug 1, 2016 | 04:10 PM
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Like letsgetthisdone said, if 2.4 isn't enough for you, then you need more cylinders.

And a better option would be a 2.3 on a 2.4 block with a better rod radio than the 1.5 on a 4G63 block. If you're racing, the better ratio will serve you well.
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Old Aug 1, 2016 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
Get a car with a v8. The 100mm crank is already questionable enough in regards to reliability. If a 2.3L with a small turbo like a bbk full, FP green, or even a stock turbo isn't torque enough for you, you need to move to a different vehicle.
Is that the stock 100mm crank you're talking about or an aftermarket one?

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a long rod 2.4 with a modern turbo will give you all the TQ to break the drivetrain.. no need for 2.6
You mean long rods on a 4G64 block... correct? Can you please write me some details, list & type of parts.

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Like letsgetthisdone said, if 2.4 isn't enough for you, then you need more cylinders.

And a better option would be a 2.3 on a 2.4 block with a better rod radio than the 1.5 on a 4G63 block. If you're racing, the better ratio will serve you well.
Again, please elaborate further with specific details, type of parts.
If I'm converting to a 4G64 then why not increase displacements to the max such as 2.5L/2.6L, I still have no definite answer!
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Old Aug 1, 2016 | 10:05 PM
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Thank you Google

Every thread about the setup and more...

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=2.6l+evo
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Originally Posted by foxbat
You mean long rods on a 4G64 block... correct? Can you please write me some details, list & type of parts.
https://englishracing.net/collection...od-short-block

these guys built a bunch of 4g64 based evo engines
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Old Aug 2, 2016 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by foxbat
Is that the stock 100mm crank you're talking about or an aftermarket one?



You mean long rods on a 4G64 block... correct? Can you please write me some details, list & type of parts.



Again, please elaborate further with specific details, type of parts.
If I'm converting to a 4G64 then why not increase displacements to the max such as 2.5L/2.6L, I still have no definite answer!
Any of them, they all break. They have a high pin offset. Not much can be done. For a street car they're ok. But for the abuse a track or autocross car sees, or someone trying to hit BIG power numbers, the 100mm cranks tend to fail.
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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 01:21 PM
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Thank you all for the good feedback
Regardless, of engine displacement, if I'm using a 4G64 block with an E9 head what other modification do I need to perform? examples:
Oil pan
Oil pump
Water pump
Head gasket
Timing belt
Head oil feed line
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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 07:49 PM
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Is there a reason you're changing from the 2.3? I can't see the torque difference being enough to justify the effort.
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Old Aug 4, 2016 | 06:09 AM
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My plan for now is to buy a stroker kit for a 4G64 block, I'll decide what size later after doing some further research.
But first can you guys help find a 4G64 block with all needed supporting mods, oil pump, water pump, head gasket, oil pan.... etc?
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