Currently have an MHI BB FP Black; thinking about moving to a JB SS Black
Have you maxed the black out already power wise 650/680whp?
I'd stick with the MHI for better transient response/torque on a street car.
You would gain some power up top with an SS housing but its still going to be limited by a small turbine wheel. If you want something that will go to 10K like a champ and pickup alot of power then a T3/T4 kit would be going in the right direction.
Just depends on your goals.
I'd stick with the MHI for better transient response/torque on a street car.
You would gain some power up top with an SS housing but its still going to be limited by a small turbine wheel. If you want something that will go to 10K like a champ and pickup alot of power then a T3/T4 kit would be going in the right direction.
Just depends on your goals.
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You don't need a whole new turbo. Just order the hot side from FP, I think they're like $425ish. I would definitely NOT down grade to a JB turbo,
I would also suggest a switch to S3's. S2's are designed for around 600hp. S3's will probably be 25whp+ gain at this level, and you can rev it higher, especially with the higher flowing single scroll hot side.
Also, is your wastegate dumped or recirc? Waste gate dump would also help at this level.
I would say if the car doesn't have an O2 dump to with an O2 dump and S3's. You'll probably pick up over 50whp.
I would also suggest a switch to S3's. S2's are designed for around 600hp. S3's will probably be 25whp+ gain at this level, and you can rev it higher, especially with the higher flowing single scroll hot side.
Also, is your wastegate dumped or recirc? Waste gate dump would also help at this level.
I would say if the car doesn't have an O2 dump to with an O2 dump and S3's. You'll probably pick up over 50whp.
Have you maxed the black out already power wise 650/680whp?
I'd stick with the MHI for better transient response/torque on a street car.
You would gain some power up top with an SS housing but its still going to be limited by a small turbine wheel. If you want something that will go to 10K like a champ and pickup alot of power then a T3/T4 kit would be going in the right direction.
Just depends on your goals.
I'd stick with the MHI for better transient response/torque on a street car.
You would gain some power up top with an SS housing but its still going to be limited by a small turbine wheel. If you want something that will go to 10K like a champ and pickup alot of power then a T3/T4 kit would be going in the right direction.
Just depends on your goals.
Thanks for the insite. I already regret the lag in my black sometimes.. The car was more fun I think back when it had like 400whp~ .. But being able to have 600whp+ available is fun too..
unfortunately you need more than 2 liters to have the torque for fun and still be capable of the big numbers, and I havent found a good awd platform that a mere mortal can afford that can take a twin turbo ls, except for a full size truck.
The three people I rode with all sold the cars to get something more fun to drive. LOL
To the OP, Do you have a dyno graph you can post? The black at 37 should be well over 600whp on good fuel.
FWIW, I have a 25psi actuator with medium preload and can make 34-36 @8000 if need be on my Red/MHI setup.
On my old 2.0 I could make upper 30's.
Have you measured back pressure?
Why not just go back to an MHI housing? The RED is plenty responsive and can still make over 600whp at high boost. It starts making power as soon as you get on it.
To the OP, Do you have a dyno graph you can post? The black at 37 should be well over 600whp on good fuel.
FWIW, I have a 25psi actuator with medium preload and can make 34-36 @8000 if need be on my Red/MHI setup.
On my old 2.0 I could make upper 30's.
Have you measured back pressure?
To the OP, Do you have a dyno graph you can post? The black at 37 should be well over 600whp on good fuel.
FWIW, I have a 25psi actuator with medium preload and can make 34-36 @8000 if need be on my Red/MHI setup.
On my old 2.0 I could make upper 30's.
Have you measured back pressure?
He would need to find an MHI housing for that. Prob wouldn't be too hard.
You can always look at extracting hp throuh the tb/head/cams
Or look at efr series turbos, if that doesn't do it for you.
But I also have other hobbies and means no time or money is going towards the Evo anytime soon.
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Why not just go back to an MHI housing? The RED is plenty responsive and can still make over 600whp at high boost. It starts making power as soon as you get on it.
To the OP, Do you have a dyno graph you can post? The black at 37 should be well over 600whp on good fuel.
FWIW, I have a 25psi actuator with medium preload and can make 34-36 @8000 if need be on my Red/MHI setup.
On my old 2.0 I could make upper 30's.
Have you measured back pressure?
To the OP, Do you have a dyno graph you can post? The black at 37 should be well over 600whp on good fuel.
FWIW, I have a 25psi actuator with medium preload and can make 34-36 @8000 if need be on my Red/MHI setup.
On my old 2.0 I could make upper 30's.
Have you measured back pressure?
The car is on flex fuel.