Nobody in your area has an Evo with aftermarket turbo? That's a bummer.

Well, read up on the HTA 71, Green, and Red. Figure which suits your needs best. Dyno charts only tell half the story. If you decide to not go with FP, at least you will know which equivalent you are looking for.

 

In the area not many, that I know, no. I'll read up on it some more.

 

Check out Chris Robbins on facebook. He does some nice stock turbo rebuilds in case you don't want to go the fp route.

 

Is there anyone putting decent mileage on his rebuilds that can vouch? I have a IX CHRA I wouldn't mind having freshened up

 

The HTA71 is the best bang for the buck but Unless you've driven a car with a Red on it you can't say its laggy or just makes a good dyno sheet. Here are a few examples of a red at different levels showing its broad power band and good spool up. Its a great all around turbo on the street as well. Its responds well and delivers by 3800-4000 where the engine can process the air. I built a fun street car that runs well light to light and I can also do anything with it. I personally think the red checks the boxes well for a street car and leaves room to grow. Good transient response, broad power band and good average power.

My car at 450/370ish on E85 25psi stock engine. I also have a 4.11 Final drive so it takes alot of the hit out of it . You can still tell by the tach that its making good power when you put your foot back in it at lower rpm. Again, the engine needs a certain amount of rpm to actually move the air and make power.

Built engine showing drag racing and auto x at lower power. A stroker helps things even more but it still was ok on the stock engine.




Sean's ( letsgetthisdone ) evo 8 with stock final drive sliding out of corners. Runs 125 in the 1/4 mile IIRC

This car sold me on the red (built 2.3) It won the nitto time attack challenge for 4-5 years IIRC.

The RS motors car ran an FP green for years at 470-500whp and was extremely competitive.

Other people can rebuild turbo's but it seems to me like the FP wheel technology always out performs everyone else for stock bolt on. The Data is out there .

 

If I had to buy another turbo, it would be an MHI ball bearing red. Best street turbo available. It makes all the power from 4000-8000. If you're turbo hit's by 3300-3500 (71hta for example) its going to run out of steam before 7500, which is no fun. The 500rpm difference in spool up/power delivery from a 71hta to an MHI Red isn't going to allow you to run a gear higher through any corner, so the advantage is negligible, if there even is one. I've autocross my car, and it comes on quickly enough. You just don't often find yourself below 4k in 2nd gear in these cars.


Also, that video of me sliding 2nd gear corner exit's was on NT01's, so the powersliding was certainly not due to a "lack" of grip in case anyone was wondering. And, yes, my car runs an 11.4-11.5 at around 125mph.

 

i would go red over a green.

 

I've driven my car back to back with HTA71 and an HTZ Green. After the HTA71, the green felt slow to spool, to me. I had more fun with the 71. You can try to convince me otherwise, all you want, but I just did. That's why I keep trying to say "it's just my preference". I have a non-popular idea of how I like my car to act and am always defending. But, I'm okay with that.

True.. but I still made 430whp. I'm fine with that kinda running out of steam.


If I had a 5spd, forged internals, and a plan to do more track days any time soon, I'm sure I'd be singing a different tune. For now, I'm gonna have a blast with the stock IX turbo, then another 71.

Wow. way off topic. Sorry, OP.

 

Thanks for providing the videos, i'll check them out when I have some decent service 👍🏽

 

I'll check those other turbos out that you guys mentioned, ive just heard everyone hype up the FP turbos

 

So its sounding like my stock internals would hold if i keep it under that 400tq guideline?

 

I've got a BBK 3B turbo on my 8 and love it. It's similar to the older FP red in size and flow (a tad smaller) and I think it's a fantastic turbo for a stock engine. Holds power to redline and transient response is pretty damn good. Spools right before 4k (38-3900) and after doing some autox and road course days I don't ever really see myself falling below those speeds. The only reason I would ever think I'd want a smaller turbo is if I didn't want to downshift out of 5th to make a pass on the highway. If you have the funds for it and value transient response then definitely get a ball bearing turbo.

If/when the time comes for me to get a new turbo I'll be getting an MHI BB red. I looked at the new green as well but seeing as how the new HTZ red spools similar to the turbo I have now I don't see any reason to get a turbo that can spool even faster. Plus a larger turbo means I can keep shaft speeds lower on the track

 

I have a htz green and I would highly recommend going mhi red!

Perfect balance IMO

 

That last video 😱. That evo was sick. I like how quickly your evo makes it through turns tho. That turbo kicks in so quickly

 

So if i was to go BB what are some of the other things I need to focus on to keep my engine running healthy. This is also my DD so I cant have a rod flying out the hood. Before i figured out the price and what I had to do for to the interals i was looking at the fp black BB.
I would like a BB depending on the other upgrades i would have to make.