MHI 18k for Evo 8/9
Originally Posted by Evo9isLife
According to Full-Race, the MHI 18K has a 55.1mm ind / 75mm exd comp wheel and 61.5mm ind / 54mm exd turbine wheel and flows 54 lb/min: MHI 18K
For comparison, a FP54 has a 52.6mm ind / 73mm exd comp wheel and 60.8mm ind / 54mm exd turbine wheel and flows 57 lb/min.
It probably spools just like a FP54. So only $100 cheaper than a FP54, no anti-surge comp housing, and it flows less... not sure why this new turbo exists.
For comparison, a FP54 has a 52.6mm ind / 73mm exd comp wheel and 60.8mm ind / 54mm exd turbine wheel and flows 57 lb/min.
It probably spools just like a FP54. So only $100 cheaper than a FP54, no anti-surge comp housing, and it flows less... not sure why this new turbo exists.
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It was co-designed by FP and MHI. From FP: "The turbine wheel is a new TF06-07 mated to an all new billet 18KX3RC compressor wheel co-designed by Forced Performance". My point was why offer this for the 8/9 when an almost identical FP turbo is already offered with better features. It makes sense for the X because they dont offer anything else for the platform. I mean I am happy that they are still supporting the 8/9 platform and coming out with new products but I dont see the value of putting this in the 8/9 line of turbos.
Originally Posted by Evo9isLife
It was co-designed by FP and MHI. From FP: "The turbine wheel is a new TF06-07 mated to an all new billet 18KX3RC compressor wheel co-designed by Forced Performance". My point was why offer this for the 8/9 when an almost identical FP turbo is already offered with better features. It makes sense for the X because they dont offer anything else for the platform. I mean I am happy that they are still supporting the 8/9 platform and coming out with new products but I dont see the value of putting this in the 8/9 line of turbos.
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This is irrelevant to my point. Im not asking who manufactured it, im saying I am confused why FP is selling it along side the FP54 from a value-to-the-customer standpoint. I shouldn't have said "why exist", I meant "why sell it for the 8/9"
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for some people (like me) having an OEM produced part is a value add. Not that I have any issues with FP, they are very reputable IMO but its hard to beat OEM, especially MHI. Another plus is an inspector isn't going to bat an eye looking at that compressor housing.
Nail. On. Head.
That's why I posted the links mate. The turbo is well worth it.
* For those who wish for more power out of the unit, one can machine the backplate and oem compressor housing and slap an fp black compressor wheel on it, making it gtx3076r gen 2 size turbo. CHRA will be fine on the bigger wheel.
Marios
* For those who wish for more power out of the unit, one can machine the backplate and oem compressor housing and slap an fp black compressor wheel on it, making it gtx3076r gen 2 size turbo. CHRA will be fine on the bigger wheel.
Marios
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If Robert does not, then you can have the wheel made by a company, or any other custom wheel you wish, or you can buy a ready made one, reverse rotation gtx30/3576r wheel, or any other variations of 20g/25g that are already available on the market.
For those interested in using a bigger wheel without sacrificing any of the boost threshold and spool characteristics of the turbo, but getting more cfm out of the turbo, here is a very good option : https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kinugawa-...IAAOSwy5Ja1W0j
The above wheel is a great combo to the turbine wheel of this turbo. It is a bigger wheel, with a bigger inducer and exducer (extended tip). The difference on the inducer may seem small, of just 1,6mm but it will make a significant difference, as it is aided by the most important characteristic of this wheel in relation to the stock one, its much smaller hub. This means added inducer blade surface, which means more cfm, and less weight. Another important feature is the extended tip of the exducer, along with the more aggressive blade angle of both primary and secondary blades. Design of the blades is also very aerodynamically potent. This wheel is lighter than the oem one. You also do not need to machine the backplate, only the compressor housing.
Marios
Last edited by Evo8cy; Oct 29, 2019 at 10:24 AM. Reason: typo