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Old Oct 29, 2019 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
Seems pretty pointless to buy a turbo, then change the compressor. If you want a different turbo, buy a different turbo..
Right, you could just buy an FP Green/red/black etc. Which is basically the same thing as buying this and modding it. Unless MHI has some kind of special sauce CHRA on this turbo? Otherwise its literally the same thing.
Old Oct 29, 2019 | 10:34 AM
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It seems point less to you because that's the way you think. You will not find the specific oem spec turbo, with the specific turbine wheel, which it is combined greatly with the compressor wheel I suggested, a wheel which will keep the boost characteristics of the specific but enhance its power output. This turbo is listed as oem, so it can be used by those who have a problem with the law putting a non oem turbo on their car. Using the wheel I posted, it remains the same turbo with enhanced characteristics. It also comes with warranty by Mitsubishi, and anyone who suggests getting an fp turbo, most people outside the States do not favor fp turbochargers very much.

The specific wheel is also a great option for those who damage the oem compressor wheel for some reason.




If one thought in the same way as you, why buy an evo and convert it to a 2.4L or a 1200hp car, and make it a completely different car. There are much better platforms out there if you want to keep the oem character of a car but with much more power output.









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Old Oct 29, 2019 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Evo8cy
It seems point less to you because that's the way you think. You will not find the specific oem spec turbo, with the specific turbine wheel, which it is combined greatly with the compressor wheel I suggested, a wheel which will keep the boost characteristics of the specific but enhance its power output. This turbo is listed as oem, so it can be used by those who have a problem with the law putting a non oem turbo on their car. Using the wheel I posted, it remains the same turbo with enhanced characteristics. It also comes with warranty by Mitsubishi, and anyone who suggests getting an fp turbo, most people outside the States do not favor fp turbochargers very much.

The specific wheel is also a great option for those who damage the oem compressor wheel for some reason.

So if i got you right, your saying this turbo, modded as you describe is better then the turbo offerings from FP? Couple things though, if you mod the turbo your warranty is gone. Second you might not think very highly of FP turbo's but Kinugawa isn't a widely adopted brand here. There have been some who have used them, but they haven't caught on for one reason or another.




If one thought in the same way as you, why buy an evo and convert it to a 2.4L or a 1200hp car, and make it a completely different car. There are much better platforms out there if you want to keep the oem character of a car but with much more power output.









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So if i got you right, your saying this turbo, modded as you describe is better then the turbo offerings from FP? Couple things though, if you mod the turbo your warranty is gone. Second you might not think very highly of FP turbo's but Kinugawa isn't a widely adopted brand here. There have been some who have used them, but they haven't caught on for one reason or another.

Lastly is it impossible for you to talk about anything without insulting people? Is that like a cultural thing or do you personally just have to put people down when they don't agree with you?
Old Oct 29, 2019 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Evo8cy
It seems point less to you because that's the way you think. You will not find the specific oem spec turbo, with the specific turbine wheel, which it is combined greatly with the compressor wheel I suggested, a wheel which will keep the boost characteristics of the specific but enhance its power output. This turbo is listed as oem, so it can be used by those who have a problem with the law putting a non oem turbo on their car. Using the wheel I posted, it remains the same turbo with enhanced characteristics. It also comes with warranty by Mitsubishi, and anyone who suggests getting an fp turbo, most people outside the States do not favor fp turbochargers very much.

The specific wheel is also a great option for those who damage the oem compressor wheel for some reason.




If one thought in the same way as you, why buy an evo and convert it to a 2.4L or a 1200hp car, and make it a completely different car. There are much better platforms out there if you want to keep the oem character of a car but with much more power output.









Marios

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Old Oct 29, 2019 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Biggiesacks
So if i got you right, your saying this turbo, modded as you describe is better then the turbo offerings from FP? Couple things though, if you mod the turbo your warranty is gone. Second you might not think very highly of FP turbo's but Kinugawa isn't a widely adopted brand here. There have been some who have used them, but they haven't caught on for one reason or another.

Lastly is it impossible for you to talk about anything without insulting people? Is that like a cultural thing or do you personally just have to put people down when they don't agree with you?



Firstly get your **** right, I as I have not insulted anyone, I've only stated an obvious fact.


Secondly , obviously if you mod the turbo when under warranty, you will lose the warranty on it, but one still gets to keep his engine bay and turbo oem, having an oem part on it. The warranty part was in regards to buying an oem part in comparison to buying an fp one.


Thirdly, buying importing an fp turbo, will cost more than buying an oem part from a Mitsi dealer around the corner.



Thirdly I do not personally think low of FP, what I said was that most people outside U.S, based on my feedback, do not favor FP turbos very much.



I have lived in the States, and although I've met many good people, I've also met some real moronic *******s as well. I've also been in many countries around the world, and diminishing and putting down a person's thoughts, or insulting in general, is not restricted in one civilization only and not in another. Where I see fit to insult someone, I have, and I will do in the future also, although I do not usually insult people, I merely characterize them by presenting them that part of their personality that reality depicts.



I have used both KINUGAWA. MAMBA. KTS, FP, and other companies all good companies in my book.





To make this clear, what I have posted here is a suggestion which is a great option for those who do not consider getting an FP turbo is a good option for them.











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Old Oct 29, 2019 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Evo8cy
Firstly get your **** right, I as I have not insulted anyone, I've only stated an obvious fact.


Secondly , obviously if you mod the turbo when under warranty, you will lose the warranty on it, but one still gets to keep his engine bay and turbo oem, having an oem part on it. The warranty part was in regards to buying an oem part in comparison to buying an fp one.


Thirdly, buying importing an fp turbo, will cost more than buying an oem part from a Mitsi dealer around the corner.



Thirdly I do not personally think low of FP, what I said was that most people outside U.S, based on my feedback, do not favor FP turbos very much.



I have lived in the States, and although I've met many good people, I've also met some real moronic *******s as well. I've also been in many countries around the world, and diminishing and putting down a person's thoughts, or insulting in general, is not restricted in one civilization only and not in another. Where I see fit to insult someone, I have, and I will do in the future also, although I do not usually insult people, I merely characterize them by presenting them that part of their personality that reality depicts.



I have used both KINUGAWA. MAMBA. KTS, FP, and other companies all good companies in my book.





To make this clear, what I have posted here is a suggestion which is a great option for those who do not consider getting an FP turbo is a good option for them.











Marios
I took your characterization of "how I think" as an insult. I made a claim, if you don't agree with it fine dispute the claim. Instead you start ranting some psychobabble nonsense.

FYI it is possible to debate peoples ideas without attacking them personally....

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Old Oct 29, 2019 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Biggiesacks
I took your characterization of "how I think" as an insult. I made a claim, if you don't agree with it fine dispute the claim. Instead you start ranting some psychobabble nonsense.



Listen mate, you should not be so easily insulted, the only one who can actually insult you, is your own self. You were wrong to be insulted by the obvious and the norm, as everyone has their own way of thinking, and that way of thinking is expressed through their verbal and written speech and non verbal actions.


I do not care if you made a claim or not, it was wrong of you do so, and I am not here to dispute any personal claims that spring to mind. I'm also not responsible of how you perceive things, and what I type. If you do not understand it ask.



The only nonsense here comes from you as there isn't a bit of psychoanalysis on this, just plain and simple knowledge of the world. You expressed your way of thinking, I commented on it, end of story.









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Old Oct 29, 2019 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Evo8cy
Listen mate, you should not be so easily insulted, the only one who can actually insult you, is your own self. You were wrong to be insulted by the obvious and the norm, as everyone has their own way of thinking, and that way of thinking is expressed through their verbal and written speech and non verbal actions.


I do not care if you made a claim or not, it was wrong of you do so, and I am not here to dispute any personal claims that spring to mind. I'm also not responsible of how you perceive things, and what I type. If you do not understand it ask.



The only nonsense here comes from you as there isn't a bit of psychoanalysis on this, just plain and simple knowledge of the world. You expressed your way of thinking, I commented on it, end of story.









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Oh ok my bad, thank you for explaining to me how I am suppose to think. How generous of you. You are so wise, thank you for explaining the "plain and simple Knowledge of the world" to me.

I am truly in awe of your ego.
Old Oct 29, 2019 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Biggiesacks
Oh ok my bad, thank you for explaining to me how I am suppose to think. How generous of you. You are so wise, thank you for explaining the "plain and simple Knowledge of the world" to me.

I am truly in awe of your ego.



The one who is egoistic actually here is you, who will not appreciate a piece of advice on correcting their way of thinking, instead you respond with irony, irony which denotes that your way of thinking is impecable and does not need any correction at all, nor am I suitable of a person enough to give you advice on the matter. You can implement what I said in your life or you can discard it, it is all the same to me. Also patronizing will get you nowhere, so I suggest you keep a more open-mind on things and people instead. Not all people live in the U.S and not all people like FP, and even for those of us who like it, it is far more easy and cost-effective to buy a Mitsi oem unit. Then , there are also those of us who wish to buy an oem unit and improve it.








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Old Oct 29, 2019 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Evo8cy
The one who is egoistic actually here is you, who will not appreciate a piece of advice on correcting their way of thinking, instead you respond with irony. You can implement what I said in your life or you can discard it, it is all the same to me. Also patronizing will get you nowhere, so I suggest you keep a more open-mind on things and people instead. Not all people live in the U.S and not all people like FP, and even for those of us who like it, it is far more easy and cost-effective to buy a Mitsi oem unit. Then , there are also those of us who wish to buy an oem unit and improve it.








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This is some level 11 cognitive dissonance right here.
Old Oct 29, 2019 | 12:56 PM
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For those that do not want to use a KINUGAWA compressor wheel, which is a good company in my book, they can use use MAMBA , KTS, UNIVERSAL PERFORMANCE, also good companies. Eiji from MAMBA is a good guy to deal with, not just for comp/turbine wheels, but for complete units as well.








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Old Oct 29, 2019 | 03:19 PM
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LOL i end up making popcorn once i start to read these threads.
Old Oct 29, 2019 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
Every thread Marios participates in-
Hahaha i wasnt going to say anything but i lost track of the threads i have read where he comments and quickly goes into how he knows of a turbo that out flows any turbo you can think of and out spools any turbo you can think of.
Old Oct 29, 2019 | 08:49 PM
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I literally skip over every one of Marios' posts because I know exactly what they will say.
Then, I get generous and decide to read another...instantly regret it.
I think it's cultural. There is no way anyone is like that on purpose. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on that one.
I'm sure he's a cool dude who just comes across horrible in American English.
Old Oct 29, 2019 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
I think when people go off on me for being abrasive sometimes, they forget about Marios. He is like 5,000 leagues worse than me in every regard.

Normal forum contributor:
"Hi guys, I like turbos and air"

Marios:
"Listen you sob, don't be so greedy about air, if you would open your old eyes you would see a world outside your mind where turbos frolic about, WITHOUT YOU. I know this because I AM THIS. Now, let me talk about myself some more and how much I know and how little you (and everyone else) knows.




Marios"



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