Looking at doing a 2.2 stroker.
So far liking the manley turbotuff billet crank but can't find anyone making 300M 153mm rods.

 

You don't need 300m rods.

Call up English Racing for some 153mm Carillos. Lightest and strongest steel rod you can put in these motors.

 

If you need 300m rods you absolutely should not be running any Manley crank.

 

You do not need 300m rods. If you are going to make 1000+ you really want to move into an aluminum rod. At that level you are going to need to service things more often anyway.

+ 1 on the Carrillo pro H with bolt upgrade. The TRC car has a set thats been in service from 800-1100hp for over a decade. 15K miles or so. It more then likely has a crank that favors oiling.


FWIW, Manley changed the design of the crank to favor strength over oiling last year. So, now its the same as stock and everyone else. I've got an older version but I am not concerned about it at all. Tune up plays a huge factor in how things live. Alot of these aftermarket cranks are made overseas by the same groups of people. In any case if you are breaking cranks with less then XXXX hp you were going to break something anyhow. Rattle anything hard enough it will break. The tuning curve is steep for some.

 

Called AG autosports they dont use 1/2 inch head studs but they do require custom machine work which requires the block to be sent to them. While ER is closer to me they dont really have a track record on their 2.2's like AG does living at that power level.

 

Yeah. ER has a terrible track record with their engines... Just a 1400whp 4g63 that goes rounds at every event they take it to. Then makes more hits on the dyno after said events..

What are you trying to do here? Last I recall you do time attack.

 

1400whp drag racing doesn't mean as much to me as 1100whp 30k miles race driving and 2000+ pulls at that power level.

Evo to me is more a rolling experiment. I like my roll racing as well as the twisty stuff I may play with electric twin charging to be able to run a bigger turbo and "do it all" but not really looking to excel in one aspect, certainly no harm in wanting the most reliable build tho.

 

I have an ER SLR 2.2 bottom end that is for sale if you're interested. Just made 850 with it. I'm going to have AG build my 2.2 for what it's worth.

 

ER and AG have done alot with this platform . They both have great results.

Concerning 1100hp evo and street car duty, The only car that comes to mind is the south florida car.

I've followed the TRC car for quite some time and its gone the distance.
FWIW, Ronnie crawford in south Florida built his first 4g63 , that is still together in the TRC car. Its got a "gazillon" runs on it. He put the engine together, Machines gone wild has taken care of that car. Lance has tuned it.
They aren't difficult engines to build or tune. Plenty of videos and media out there on how to build them.

However, having a high HP 4 cylinder requires alot of resources and looking after compared to something with more cylinder count. More cylinders doing the work is easier on everything.

 

Apparently Anthony is the guy at AG that is crazy about the tolerances and he determines what they build.
TRC and Dan's car are both AG but Dan doesn't have the miles on it like TRC. They have been getting flooded with people wanting similar builds tho so i havn't gotten thru yet.
They wouldn't just sell me a rotating assembly either and you have to ship them a used block they prefer used. So theres abit more to it than average i'd assume.

 

Anthony ,Dan, Kris and the guys at AG are great. Dan's car is a beast.

I personally know Javier and the TRC car.. well. Engine was done by Ronnie ,car was built by Machines gone wild,tuned by lance. Ronnie has always done low compression , thats what he is known for. 11:00 min mark.

 

Breaking news- Engine builders measure things.

 

What exactly is low comp stock or 8.5 or lower?

 

Clearly some companies better than others.

 

I'm not saying AG doesn't build solid engines, but they didn't even build the TRC car like you thought they did. And thinking ER doesn't build quality, reliable engines for any power level is absolutely absurd.

Additionally, I simply said to get rods from ER because they have their custom 153mm Carrillo's in stock most of the time. I didn't realize you weren't building your own engine and were instead having someone else do it. Which, regardless of that, ER is still a one of the few viable options. And if someone else is building your engine, they're going to use the parts they want to use and won't care what rod EvoM told you to use.