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Old Nov 2, 2020 | 06:52 AM
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153mm rod suppliers?

I'm looking to build a 4G63 2.2L using 153mm rods. So far I can only find rod offerings from Callies and Oliver. Is anyone else making OTS 153mm rods?

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Old Nov 2, 2020 | 09:02 AM
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Is there a reason you don’t want to use one of those brands? Just curious because I’ve been looking into 153mm rod setups as well.
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Old Nov 2, 2020 | 09:11 AM
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You can also go with a Carrillo Pro H 153mm rod, its not a shelf part but typically you can get it within 4-6 weeks. Its proven and lightweight.
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Old Nov 2, 2020 | 09:57 AM
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Is there a reason you don’t want to use one of those brands? Just curious because I’ve been looking into 153mm rod setups as well.
Im just trying to make sure I do all my research.

I used Oliver rods in my last build and am leaning towards them. The Callies are very expensive (~$1250 from what I've found)
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Old Nov 2, 2020 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by justboosted02
Im just trying to make sure I do all my research.

I used Oliver rods in my last build and am leaning towards them. The Callies are very expensive (~$1250 from what I've found)
Carrilos start around $800. The $1250 are the Pro H beams
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Old Dec 14, 2020 | 11:53 AM
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ended up going with another set of Oliver rods. They were in stock and I had them within 3 days once the order was placed.

Now I'm looking for pistons, with the 94mm crank and 153mm rods the wrist pin is in the same location as 88/156 and 100/150 motors, this gives a couple off the shelf options that should work for the motor. Shooting for 9.0:1 compression leaves me with a dish requirement of 15-17 cc depending on what the head CC's at and the HG gasket thickness.

Diamond racing has a nice -16.5cc dish piston that I am looking at, although I haven't notice many people running Diamonds?
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Old Dec 14, 2020 | 12:54 PM
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You can contact wiseco and ask for custom dome sizing in the 1400HD piston. Thats the route I would go.
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Old Dec 14, 2020 | 01:42 PM
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I have a set of Diamonds laying around. They're made here in MI and after I'm a fan of what they bring to the table for their price. Definitely would consider them.
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Old Dec 15, 2020 | 05:09 AM
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thanks,

Looking into the company a bit it seems like they have a large amount of prestige and experience.

I contacted them and they said that the pistons are built to order with 4wk leadtime. I'll probably send the head out first and get better CC numbers to see if I really need to go custom dish or not.
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You either need a custom dish, or to find an mfg that makes the piston for the 94/153 combo specifically because changes in stroke change compression (shorter stroke lowers compression, and vice versa).

My only issue with diamond is that they are a full round piston. Which is not as strong as modern design strutted pistons.
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Old Dec 15, 2020 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
You either need a custom dish, or to find an mfg that makes the piston for the 94/153 combo specifically because changes in stroke change compression (shorter stroke lowers compression, and vice versa).

My only issue with diamond is that they are a full round piston. Which is not as strong as modern design strutted pistons.
CD between the 100/150, 88/156, and 94/153 is the same. the only consideration is the dish volume which dictates your comp ratio. you can then fine tune your CR with various headgaskets.

the -16.5cc diamond piston should net me 8.9:1 - 9.2:1 based on HG thickness and my calculation assumptions.

I did wonder about the full round design of the diamond but the quoted weight is 306g which seems middle of the road. I'm not that concerned with absolute low weight of the components as I want to somewhat favor strength.

Motor is going to need to make 750-800 whp to beat my boss' 67 Chevelle

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CD between the 100/150, 88/156, and 94/153 is the same. the only consideration is the dish volume which dictates your comp ratio. you can then fine tune your CR with various headgaskets.

the -16.5cc diamond piston should net me 8.9:1 - 9.2:1 based on HG thickness and my calculation assumptions.

I did wonder about the full round design of the diamond but the quoted weight is 306g which seems middle of the road. I'm not that concerned with absolute low weight of the components as I want to somewhat favor strength.

Motor is going to need to make 750-800 whp to beat my boss' 67 Chevelle
Yeah, i'm fully aware of whats the same and what's need to be different on the pistons.

For that power level I would not even think about a full round piston like the Diamond.
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Old Dec 23, 2020 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
Yeah, i'm fully aware of whats the same and what's need to be different on the pistons.

For that power level I would not even think about a full round piston like the Diamond.
why?
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About your OEM gauges

Hey man, I'm new so I can't send PM or message in the marketplace
I'm interested in the gauges you posted. If the other guy didn't buy them send me a PM thanks
happy new year
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Old Jan 6, 2021 | 06:44 AM
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Hey man, I'm new so I can't send PM or message in the marketplace
I'm interested in the gauges you posted. If the other guy didn't buy them send me a PM thanks
happy new year
sent you a PM
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