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Old Nov 13, 2002 | 10:23 PM
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AV's Digital Hysteria's portfolio says something about an EI forum...





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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 04:36 AM
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Re: Digital Hysteria and EI

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AV's Digital Hysteria's portfolio says something about an EI forum...





DH on EI
It says on there:

Evolution Imports

Another small project that Mark Moderassi contracted me for. Evolution Imports needed a website to showcase their custom built Mitsubishi Lancer imports, as well as a forum to respond to interested parties via e-mail.


Old Nov 14, 2002 | 05:39 AM
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Don't know where he got forums out of it, but DH designed EI's site.

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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 06:51 AM
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I think 'Forum' in this case refers to an avenue or method in which customers are able to get in contact with EI, not 'forum' in the sense youre thinking of (BB).
Old Nov 14, 2002 | 10:30 AM
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Re: Digital Hysteria and EI

Originally posted by RaX

It says on there:

Evolution Imports

Another small project that Mark Moderassi contracted me for. Evolution Imports needed a website to showcase their custom built Mitsubishi Lancer imports, as well as a forum to respond to interested parties via e-mail.


I think a 12-year-old could've done a better job of Photoshopping this originally RHD image into an LHD:


Getting back on topic, there's still no notice, as of today, that NHTSA has received G&K's EVO VII petition. However, yesterday NHTSA did announce a decision (favorable) on another petition, for a Mercedes Benz SL.

So let's take a look at it to see how long these things can take.

The Federal Register notice announcing the decision is here and the docket is here. The petition was sent off to NHTSA on Jan 10, 2002. Months pass and then this mysterious message arrives (via TELEX?) and is added to the docket on Apr 4, 2002, which is BEFORE the petition receipt notice is published:
I AM ACTING UPON MY CLIENTS BEHALF MR. WALTER DECOCK WHO IS THE OWNER OF THIS MERCEDES BENZ . IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED IF THE REQUIRED D.O.T CERTIFICATION INSPECTION COULD BE EXPEDITED. HE HAS BEEN WAITING FOR AN EXCEPTIONALLY LONG TIME. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ON THIS MATTER,AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM SOMEONE ON THIS VEHICLE.
How funny. Anyway the receipt notice was finally published on May 1, 2002.

Let's play a game and assume the G&K EVO VII petition follows the same timeline as that MB petition described above and also assume that it took G&K 4 weeks to prepare its petition. Then the projected EVO petition timeline would look like this:
July 29, 2002 - EVOs arrive at G&K
Aug 26, 2002 - Petition mailed to NHTSA
Dec 16, 2002 - Petition receipt announced in Federal Register
Jun 30, 2003 - NHTSA announces decision

That was fun. Let's try that again, this time with a Ferrari petition whose decision was announced last week on Nov 6, 2002. The decision announcement can be read here and its docket is here. Briefly, this Ferrari petition's timeline was:
May 30, 2001 - J&K mails Ferrari petition
Sep 24, 2001 - Petition receipt announced in Federal Register
Nov 06, 2002 - NHTSA announces decision

So, the projected EVO petition timeline based on the Ferrari petition would look like this:
July 29, 2002 - EVOs arrive at G&K
Aug 26, 2002 - Petition mailed to NHTSA
Dec 20, 2002 - Petition receipt announced in Federal Register
Feb 02, 2004 - NHTSA announces decision
Old Nov 14, 2002 | 11:27 AM
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I think the first customers paid for thrie Evo from EI back in March or so...wouldn't they have started the petition around that time? Or do they start it after they've arrived?
Old Nov 14, 2002 | 11:53 AM
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Maybe he ought to rephrase that

Originally posted by KK
Don't know where he got forums out of it, but DH designed EI's site.

Mark
I know. Could be "construed" otherwise. My first impression.
Old Nov 14, 2002 | 11:53 AM
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Come on if you think that Evolution Imports was trying to scam people out of $.Why did they bring real evo 7.cause someone was going to scam someone ,they would had taken the money and run.
I bought a EVO 7 from E.I.Wait till next month when i show every one wrong that i have a real street legal,registerd from the DMV,Insured by NY EVO 7
Old Nov 14, 2002 | 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by broeli
I think the first customers paid for thrie Evo from EI back in March or so...wouldn't they have started the petition around that time? Or do they start it after they've arrived?
Technically, you are correct. Here's a quote from REGISTERED IMPORTER NEWSLETTER No. 3:
It is not necessary to have a candidate vehicle or substantially similar vehicle in hand at the time a petition is submitted. However, if you do not, then your petition must not claim you have compared vehicles. Substantiation of such petitions must include reference to verifiable documentation. When you do make physical comparisons, your petition must include make, model and VIN of both vehicles.
The "verifiable documentation" mentioned would almost have to be the manufacturer's part lists for both vehicles, the candidate vehicle and the substantially similar vehicle. Such parts lists are usually dificult or impossible to obtain. That's why nearly all "substantially similar" petitions have the vehicles in hand and use a phrase like "Petitioner has carefully compared ..."
Old Nov 14, 2002 | 12:05 PM
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Speaking of Dockets

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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 12:25 PM
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I don't think they were trying to scam anyone, but they do not have any real financial risk in this. If the cars fail, they tell the purchasers that they are **** outta luck and move on (close business, whatever).... If it works, then they will start to make some $, but only because someone else took the risk.

Somehow they talked inteligently enough (or BS'd) to get initial buyers to pay for the price of the car, plus some profit......so at some point, EI had actually collected more $ than the cost of those EVO VII"s they imported....

I honestly think they are trying hard or they would not have spent the $$$$ for that Dupont Registry ads. (which are not cheap at all). Trying hard just doesn't cut it with $30k+ deposits though. I would sure feel like a dick if I was running EI.... Making promises that you cannot keep doesn't help ya sleep at night.


Originally posted by Celm
Come on if you think that Evolution Imports was trying to scam people out of $.Why did they bring real evo 7.cause someone was going to scam someone ,they would had taken the money and run.
I bought a EVO 7 from E.I.Wait till next month when i show every one wrong that i have a real street legal,registerd from the DMV,Insured by NY EVO 7
Old Nov 14, 2002 | 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by Celm
I bought a EVO 7 from E.I.Wait till next month when i show every one wrong that i have a real street legal,registerd from the DMV,Insured by NY EVO 7
When will your EVO leave Europe? BTW, has anyone else noticed a pattern in Celm's posts?

On Aug 15, 2002, Celm wrote:
Just put an order w/Adam at Evo Imports today.for a satilite silver EVO 7.he said it leaves europe end of august .it will be at my door in NY in mid october,CANT WAIT!!!!
On Sept 1, 2002, Celm wrote:
Adam from E.I said my EVO will be in the shipment thats leaving anyday now
On Sept 11, 2002, Celm wrote:
hey erik
i was talking to adam ,ill have my EVO 10- 12 weeks as of sept 30

i mean sept 3 not sept 30
On Oct 3, 2002, Celm wrote:
i was told ill be getting mine late november,but i have a feeling it will be late december or early january
On Oct 19, 2002, Celm wrote:
my car is on the same boat as your car.and when its done with everything im using one of those car transporters to get it to NY.Adam arranged it with one of the car transport company he uses
on Nov 8, 2002, Celm wrote:
Give E.I a call and give them that info.Cause i found out my car hasnt even left europe yet .It wont leave till nov 12.so i can forget about 2nd week of december

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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 01:15 PM
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Talking EI related DOT stuff

Loophole (Evo is like Canadian Mirage)

Another loophole (importation of Off Road Vehicles)

Another loophole (junk autos)

Senior Info, are these your comments?


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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 02:03 PM
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Re: Re: Digital Hysteria and EI

Originally posted by Seņor Info
I think a 12-year-old could've done a better job of Photoshopping this originally RHD image into an LHD:

this is a picture of a RHD car. it is just a reversed image. no photoshopping being done. notice all the stickers are the same way?



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