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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 10:03 AM
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If I can remember the HKS skyline correctly, it has a bunch of electronic gizmos to control its traction, unless NOPI or NHRA imprt drag sanctioning body allow it . . . I'm not aware that they do.

I have also seen the HKS silvia w/ the skyline motor at Gainesville, FL couple years ago, but it only ran or allowed as an exhibition in English town.
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by inariv5573
I was wondering why there are no Evos in professional drag racing? Come to think of it, there are no WRX/STis either. Granted there are more Evos in 9,s and 10's than Subarus. Everytime I watch NOPI racing on Tunervision and the NHRA Sport Compact Series, I always hope there will be Evos and WRXs. There are none. I think Al from Pruven and Jeff from Turbo Trix should enter those. They are quick enough. The closest I have seen to a DSM is John Sheppard's Talon in the Street Class. I have seen Brent Rau, but his Eclipse was converted to RWD. And these were in NOPI. None in NHRA. Not to disrespect Hondas, but that is all they show. There may be a Mazda or Toyota here and there.
Just wait till next year I bet we see a few in the circuit.

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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 02:43 PM
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The Evolutions 2.0L (or even 2.3, 2.4L) can't be competitive with the larger V6's, and a conversion to RWD would also be needed to be competitive in the pro-class (we'll find out how the Bob Norwood AWD system holds up in the SPT STi).
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 03:46 PM
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bob norwood is one helluva guy.. saw that crazy integra at his shop.
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 03:49 PM
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The Evolutions 2.0L (or even 2.3, 2.4L) can't be competitive with the larger V6's, and a conversion to RWD would also be needed to be competitive in the pro-class (we'll find out how the Bob Norwood AWD system holds up in the SPT STi).
Then how do you explain Hondas and their 1.8's? Not to mention John Sheppard and Breant Rau run and they have 2 liters.
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 03:56 PM
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The topic is "Pro" drag racing which I thought meant "Pro" class (AEM Civic, Bullish Solara, Titan Celica, etc.) because their are several Evolutions in NHRA, NOPI and IDRC. Al, Turbotrix, AMS, etc. Unfortunately none of those cars a quite fast enough to win their class. Even in the street tire class it's going to be nearly impossible to keep up with with larger displacement. The Honda's have specific classes designed for 4Cyl. FWD.
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 04:09 PM
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Pro FWD does include other cars then just Hondas. In fact, they aren't the fastest anymore, nor do they dominate the field. Mopar and GM have gotten into the game. 7.40 is the record ET for NHRA by Nelson Hoyos in his Cavalier. I'm sure all the domestics are over 2.0L's and most Honda guys either bore out their B18's to 2.0L's or are using H22's.

That's still pretty damn quick. I can't remember what the Skyline ran, but 7.6 comes to mind. It seems odd that even the much maligned FWD (or wrong wheel drive) can out do an AWD car on a drag strip, but it can be done. Somone should build a tube framed AWD car for exhibition purposes to see if the can do better, and perhaps create a new class.

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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 04:42 PM
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I thought Lisa Kubo's past civic was sleeved for boring and stroking the motor to a whopping 2.6 liter.

As for the privateer efforts into either NOPI or NHRA import drag, it's very hard to outspend bigger corporate entity. No privateer has as much limited budget of GM. Also, I have rumors that those organizations don't like privateer efforts, because "they" don't tour their circuit around the country.
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 04:49 PM
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i agree with david.. just need someone willing to put the R&D and most importantly... the $$$$
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 05:02 PM
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At the Sema show there was a Subie drag car in the making
WAs not all wheel drivebut had sequential box and boxer block in it
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 05:13 PM
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The Subaru drag car at SEMA was AWD.

As for the PRO FWD, are you going to built a pro-class Evo that's FWD? An AWD or RWD Evo in the Pro class would compete with cars that run 6.6's and might run faster next year. That would be kind of ackward and probably a losing battle since you would be competing directly against factory backed GM and Chrysler entries.
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by inariv5573
I was wondering why there are no Evos in professional drag racing? Come to think of it, there are no WRX/STis either. Granted there are more Evos in 9,s and 10's than Subarus. Everytime I watch NOPI racing on Tunervision and the NHRA Sport Compact Series, I always hope there will be Evos and WRXs. There are none. I think Al from Pruven and Jeff from Turbo Trix should enter those. They are quick enough. The closest I have seen to a DSM is John Sheppard's Talon in the Street Class. I have seen Brent Rau, but his Eclipse was converted to RWD. And these were in NOPI. None in NHRA. Not to disrespect Hondas, but that is all they show. There may be a Mazda or Toyota here and there.
You'll see Evo's more on track, road racing and of course Rally racing!!
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by metaphysical
The topic is "Pro" drag racing which I thought meant "Pro" class (AEM Civic, Bullish Solara, Titan Celica, etc.) because their are several Evolutions in NHRA, NOPI and IDRC. Al, Turbotrix, AMS, etc. Unfortunately none of those cars a quite fast enough to win their class. Even in the street tire class it's going to be nearly impossible to keep up with with larger displacement. The Honda's have specific classes designed for 4Cyl. FWD.
John Sheppard runs Street Class, and he is only 2 liters.
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