DaWorstPlaya

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LOL! you guys crack me up
Now Now Children

Steiner

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He started it!...{clicks away on keyboard, posts message, and folds arms in anger}

groovytang

lol neons do make you immature.

Steiner

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But seriously...what are you wearing?

groovytang

your wife's panties = )

Steiner

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Sweet. Would you be open to wearing a woman's wig? Don't answer right away. Take your time.

groovytang

Steiner officially on ignore heh, He will get banned for his own antics. hehe, Nothing like clicking immaturity away and letting the adults talk. IGNORE! lol thats better, now back to TOPIC stuff.

Steiner

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I must have rushed him. Why do I always do that! (Steiner punches himself in *****)

MaxR

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subarus handle poorly because the engine and transmission are positioned so high in the chassis. subaru needs to put them above the front differential to achieve the symmetrical AWD design.

CharlieGsanD

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4 wheel macphersons on the subie

front macpherson's & multilink rear on the Evo

GPTourer

This has been covered elsewhere I'm sure, but its way more then just the tires. To say that two seperate teams of engineers from Mitsu and Subaru developed equally handling cars and then it came down to wrong tire choice by the subaru people is pretty trite. There are way more things going on to make the Evo better.

I had always heard a shorter wheelbase was better then a longer one, to take it to an extreme an Elise handles better then an Excursion. Go karts do better then hearses. Some people have blamed the Evos long wheelbase and transverse engine setup on its poor turning radius. The number one complaint I read from tests is that Subarus tend to push and have soft springs compared to their archirival. It would take more then just a set of tires to solve that.

groovytang

this is obviously why the evo has won more wrc championships than the sti heh, well with the good driver tommy too

aluu

yeah wheelbases, shock damping and tires make a difference but how bout this reason: the engineers........choosing parts and formulating mathematical equations is the easy part, but manipulating each and putting it together to work in harmony as required for a great car comes down to the designers. Don't you think the Subie engineers could have figured out that its car handled a tad worse because a inch difference in the wheelbase? It's just like racing, you have a formula and you have to maximize your limitations and that goes beyond settings and parts.

I've met many of the engineers who build the Evo and they are extremely talented and passionate individuals. Not to say more so than the Subaru guys, but perhaps they just got it more "right" this round. It's the same reason Porsche drive like Porsche; Ferraris like Ferraris and why other cars at in that class can't do what they do and drive like they drive.

ezhangin

Well, all I know is that the STi does push, and believe me it does haha. The evo just felt, better, I can't really describe it.

Darwinator

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Uh not the driver