Question for people who went from an 03 EVO to an 05 EVO...
[smart ***] who paid the difference in the cost? you or your parents? [/smart ***]
I just don't think the reward is big enough for the average guy driving on the street. Maybe if you guys tracked your cars a bunch? I have a dedicated race car, so I drive my Evo fairly sanely and not at the track any more.
Dave - post what you decide to do. I would imagine (similar to my car) your private sale or trade in would only be $22k or so...... so it will cost you $8k or so to upgrade, assuming you can talk a new one down to $30k even.
Originally Posted by gtr
Traded mine in and i'll do it all over again. I love the improved ride and the improved top end pull on my MR. As for diffs it understeers less. I dont' know if it's from the ACD or the front LSD but the ACD is nice in the snow. I can feel the power moving from the back to front.
If you've drove a STi before that is what the 05's feels like. The stock 05's feel like a turbo back exhaust with a piggyback torque wise.
If you've drove a STi before that is what the 05's feels like. The stock 05's feel like a turbo back exhaust with a piggyback torque wise.
I just don't think the reward is big enough for the average guy driving on the street. Maybe if you guys tracked your cars a bunch? I have a dedicated race car, so I drive my Evo fairly sanely and not at the track any more.
Dave - post what you decide to do. I would imagine (similar to my car) your private sale or trade in would only be $22k or so...... so it will cost you $8k or so to upgrade, assuming you can talk a new one down to $30k even.
It's worth it dave. I traded my 03 in at lancaster
. They gave me $24,008.75 trade for a new new black 05 with SSL for $33,700 They aren't that far from you about 15 min outside of york.
. They gave me $24,008.75 trade for a new new black 05 with SSL for $33,700 They aren't that far from you about 15 min outside of york.
Why not spend $995 for the Buschur racing Stage 0 upgrade? You will be faster than the MR & have saved $9K. Your present car has enough miles that you know its not a lemon, who knows how reliable a new car would be?
Originally Posted by evo 8 ya
It's worth it dave. I traded my 03 in at lancaster
. They gave me $24,008.75 trade for a new new black 05 with SSL for $33,700 They aren't that far from you about 15 min outside of york.
. They gave me $24,008.75 trade for a new new black 05 with SSL for $33,700 They aren't that far from you about 15 min outside of york.
odd that a guy from DC would go to lancaster.... did you buy the black one they had in 2003 with the sunroof for $2k over msrp back then? I was #1 on the list and bought the silver one from them in March 2003.
I only have 15k on mine so I see no reason to swap just yet. Unless you are tracking the car i doubt the differences are that noticable......even if you are tracking the car it takes a pretty good driver to notice anyway.
I only have 15k on mine so I see no reason to swap just yet. Unless you are tracking the car i doubt the differences are that noticable......even if you are tracking the car it takes a pretty good driver to notice anyway.
Originally Posted by evo 8 ya
It's worth it dave. I traded my 03 in at lancaster
. They gave me $24,008.75 trade for a new new black 05 with SSL for $33,700 They aren't that far from you about 15 min outside of york.
. They gave me $24,008.75 trade for a new new black 05 with SSL for $33,700 They aren't that far from you about 15 min outside of york.
Originally Posted by Scot
[smart ***] who paid the difference in the cost? you or your parents? [/smart ***]
Originally Posted by Scot
I only have 15k on mine so I see no reason to swap just yet. Unless you are tracking the car i doubt the differences are that noticable......even if you are tracking the car it takes a pretty good driver to notice anyway.
I bought a new 05, but if I had an 03 I wouldn't trade. That can become a very expensive game and I do not think the incremental improvements are worth it. I can't imagine trading up everytime a new improved model comes out.
Jim
Jim
Originally Posted by Scot
odd that a guy from DC would go to lancaster.... did you buy the black one they had in 2003 with the sunroof for $2k over msrp back then? I was #1 on the list and bought the silver one from them in March 2003.
I only have 15k on mine so I see no reason to swap just yet. Unless you are tracking the car i doubt the differences are that noticable......even if you are tracking the car it takes a pretty good driver to notice anyway.
I only have 15k on mine so I see no reason to swap just yet. Unless you are tracking the car i doubt the differences are that noticable......even if you are tracking the car it takes a pretty good driver to notice anyway.
i don't enjoy auto-x more due to wasting and entire 8 hours to run 4 runs....but i can at least beat all of the local Porsche Club goons in my ****ty 2003 evo. 
I would agree that the front lsd *should* help some, but not sure about the ACD....unless you had an auto-x on gravel or snow.???
For the average guy though, i doubt it will be much of a difference....... i saw 996 Twin Turbo's running 2-4 seconds slower than me on a 1 minute course! Even if those guy upgraded their cars they would still suck....

I would agree that the front lsd *should* help some, but not sure about the ACD....unless you had an auto-x on gravel or snow.???
For the average guy though, i doubt it will be much of a difference....... i saw 996 Twin Turbo's running 2-4 seconds slower than me on a 1 minute course! Even if those guy upgraded their cars they would still suck....
Originally Posted by gtr
Scot, have you ever auto X instead of running on an open track? The fact is that tire pressure and alignment makes the world of difference alone. I can't imagine how huge a difference the front LSD/ACD combo would make! It will be difficult for the average auto X driver to drive a 03 evo faster than 05 in A-stock?
Originally Posted by Scot
i don't enjoy auto-x more due to wasting and entire 8 hours to run 4 runs....but i can at least beat all of the local Porsche Club goons in my ****ty 2003 evo. 
I would agree that the front lsd *should* help some, but not sure about the ACD....unless you had an auto-x on gravel or snow.???
For the average guy though, i doubt it will be much of a difference....... i saw 996 Twin Turbo's running 2-4 seconds slower than me on a 1 minute course! Even if those guy upgraded their cars they would still suck....

I would agree that the front lsd *should* help some, but not sure about the ACD....unless you had an auto-x on gravel or snow.???
For the average guy though, i doubt it will be much of a difference....... i saw 996 Twin Turbo's running 2-4 seconds slower than me on a 1 minute course! Even if those guy upgraded their cars they would still suck....


