specific output
sorry but the 135hp per liter doesn't count being that it's produced under boost. the s2000 is the leader for 4 cylinder, 2.0, and n/a producing 100hp/liter. without boost the evo viii prolly only makes near 90 or so?
Originally posted by themi6group
sorry but the 135hp per liter doesn't count being that it's produced under boost. the s2000 is the leader for 4 cylinder, 2.0, and n/a producing 100hp/liter. without boost the evo viii prolly only makes near 90 or so?
sorry but the 135hp per liter doesn't count being that it's produced under boost. the s2000 is the leader for 4 cylinder, 2.0, and n/a producing 100hp/liter. without boost the evo viii prolly only makes near 90 or so?
Anyways, the Evo will have perhaps the highest hp/l for at least a month or more in the Northern Hemisphere. There are lots of cars in Europe and Asia that produced more than that.
Cheers
Paul Hansen
If my memory serves me correctly, the volume rating on a rotary engine (like the 1.3 l on the rx7's) is the maximum volume created on any given stroke. If you understand the rotary design, the rotor is essentially a triangle, meaning that at any given point, there are 3 combustion strokes at varying degrees of progress (ie. one at compression, one at combustion, one at exhaust). Remember, in a piston engine, not all cylinders are firing simultaneously, they are also offset.
So, if what i said first was true (that volume in rotary is rated at the maximum created in a stroke), that would me the theoretical maximum volume of a rotary engine is three times that, or rather 3.9l, as opposed to 1.3l. Note that one of the reasons why rotary engines have not become popular is due to their inability to effectively contain the combustion, and a lack of compression. This would hold true with the 3.9l arguemtn, that rotary engines are (as of yet), inefficient.
Maybe I am totally mistaken on this point, please correct me otherwise.
So, if what i said first was true (that volume in rotary is rated at the maximum created in a stroke), that would me the theoretical maximum volume of a rotary engine is three times that, or rather 3.9l, as opposed to 1.3l. Note that one of the reasons why rotary engines have not become popular is due to their inability to effectively contain the combustion, and a lack of compression. This would hold true with the 3.9l arguemtn, that rotary engines are (as of yet), inefficient.
Maybe I am totally mistaken on this point, please correct me otherwise.
Originally posted by EVOJOE
Remember the Mclaren F1?
Remember the Mclaren F1?
Originally posted by erikgj
No.....
The rover K derived 1.8 liter in the caterham R500 superlite puts out 230hp.
127.7 hp/l.
No.....
The rover K derived 1.8 liter in the caterham R500 superlite puts out 230hp.
127.7 hp/l.
Originally posted by Supah Fly
If my memory serves me correctly, the volume rating on a rotary engine (like the 1.3 l on the rx7's) is the maximum volume created on any given stroke. If you understand the rotary design, the rotor is essentially a triangle, meaning that at any given point, there are 3 combustion strokes at varying degrees of progress (ie. one at compression, one at combustion, one at exhaust). Remember, in a piston engine, not all cylinders are firing simultaneously, they are also offset.
So, if what i said first was true (that volume in rotary is rated at the maximum created in a stroke), that would me the theoretical maximum volume of a rotary engine is three times that, or rather 3.9l, as opposed to 1.3l. Note that one of the reasons why rotary engines have not become popular is due to their inability to effectively contain the combustion, and a lack of compression. This would hold true with the 3.9l arguemtn, that rotary engines are (as of yet), inefficient.
Maybe I am totally mistaken on this point, please correct me otherwise.
If my memory serves me correctly, the volume rating on a rotary engine (like the 1.3 l on the rx7's) is the maximum volume created on any given stroke. If you understand the rotary design, the rotor is essentially a triangle, meaning that at any given point, there are 3 combustion strokes at varying degrees of progress (ie. one at compression, one at combustion, one at exhaust). Remember, in a piston engine, not all cylinders are firing simultaneously, they are also offset.
So, if what i said first was true (that volume in rotary is rated at the maximum created in a stroke), that would me the theoretical maximum volume of a rotary engine is three times that, or rather 3.9l, as opposed to 1.3l. Note that one of the reasons why rotary engines have not become popular is due to their inability to effectively contain the combustion, and a lack of compression. This would hold true with the 3.9l arguemtn, that rotary engines are (as of yet), inefficient.
Maybe I am totally mistaken on this point, please correct me otherwise.
Originally posted by themi6group
sorry but the 135hp per liter doesn't count being that it's produced under boost. the s2000 is the leader for 4 cylinder, 2.0, and n/a producing 100hp/liter. without boost the evo viii prolly only makes near 90 or so?
sorry but the 135hp per liter doesn't count being that it's produced under boost. the s2000 is the leader for 4 cylinder, 2.0, and n/a producing 100hp/liter. without boost the evo viii prolly only makes near 90 or so?
Originally posted by WestSideBilly
Yes, quite a nice car. But not that great in terms of specific output - 627 hp from a 6.1L V12.
This is essentially a race engine, and I do not believe to be US emissions legal. As Paul said, there are a lot of extremely high output engines across the pond.
I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty certain that the 1.3L (in the case of the RX7/8) is the maximum volume. As for the lack of popularity, your first two points are spot on, while the 3rd is not. Any which why you fry it, the rotary is a very efficient engine - especially in space efficiency. The fully trimmed Renesis engine would fit in a large backpack.
Yes, quite a nice car. But not that great in terms of specific output - 627 hp from a 6.1L V12.
This is essentially a race engine, and I do not believe to be US emissions legal. As Paul said, there are a lot of extremely high output engines across the pond.
I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty certain that the 1.3L (in the case of the RX7/8) is the maximum volume. As for the lack of popularity, your first two points are spot on, while the 3rd is not. Any which why you fry it, the rotary is a very efficient engine - especially in space efficiency. The fully trimmed Renesis engine would fit in a large backpack.
Originally posted by shirokuma
That's like saying that a turbo engine isn't any good because if you took the turbo away, it wouldn't perform very well. Of course it won't make any power without the turbo - it was bloody well designed for a turbo!
Anyways, the Evo will have perhaps the highest hp/l for at least a month or more in the Northern Hemisphere. There are lots of cars in Europe and Asia that produced more than that.
Cheers
Paul Hansen
That's like saying that a turbo engine isn't any good because if you took the turbo away, it wouldn't perform very well. Of course it won't make any power without the turbo - it was bloody well designed for a turbo!
Anyways, the Evo will have perhaps the highest hp/l for at least a month or more in the Northern Hemisphere. There are lots of cars in Europe and Asia that produced more than that.
Cheers
Paul Hansen
shirokuma, you're right. without the turbo it wouldn't perform as well.
The JDM S2000 makes 250HP, and it was rated highest hp/L N/A engine off the factory.
So that makes 125HP/L not the U.S S2000
By the way, Subaru Impreza S202 was rated highest torque for 2.0L engine.
So that makes 125HP/L not the U.S S2000
By the way, Subaru Impreza S202 was rated highest torque for 2.0L engine.
Last edited by BoxerSTi; Dec 18, 2002 at 05:31 PM.



? 560 hp from a 3.5L V12 = 160 hp/L