There was a rash of "dyno racers" on the MLR forums recently as well. It's virtually the same argument only involving different products. On those forums there are a bunch of arguments between Evo owners as to who has the better performing car and most are basing their opinions on dyno results not track results. I guess my point is just like most everyone else's. The argument is pointless....move on and buy another car if your opinion is so easily influenced.

 

I think you contradicted yourself... you're saying Mitsubishi screwed up with the Evo because the Sti was a better car, feature for feature, but that you will get the Evo because it fits your budget? If the Evo was as much as the Sti and has AYC/ACD, etc then you may not get either! At least this way we have both cars and a choice and I'm 100% sure the next Evo will be even better. You have to start somewhere.

Mark

 

Uh - I guess you have never heard of Road America?!?!?! - - - In Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin.

Undeniably one of (if not) THE best road coarse in North America.
And I live in Northern Canada - and I have been there several times.

 

For those of you who couldn't make it through the dry unveilling broadcast from the evo site.

Mitsu execs announced that bringing the evo also means bringing Ralli Art. As well that there would be Ralli Art editions of the evo, very much like the STi edition of the wrx. Now I remain hopefull that mitsu planned to include the ACD, AYC, and 6 speed in this car. However if they didn't mean to imply that, I hope that the STi does well to encourage Mitsu to deliver the electronic goodies (and maybe more power too!)

So I will wait till i owe less on my ES than the trade in value, and hopefully by then we will have the real version of the evo

 

Nope, no Ralliart Evo..at least for a while. I told there WILL be a Ralliart edition Lancer that will be along the lines of the Mazda MP3. Right now Ralliart will not have a big performance involvement with the Evo here in the US. I'm sure the Evo will be "improved" for the next model year as most models are.

 

Ahh man, no Ralli///Art 20" chrome dubs for my Evo like there are for the Eclipse?

 

ROTFLOL I saw the webcast live... damn Tyrese made me laugh!!!

Mitsu could have at least preped him on what to say!

 

They shouldnt have even let him inside the building. I wanted to hear what the Pro Rally drivers had to say.

 

i have a awd stealth twin turbo now. it has 300 hp stock. it is so heavy it will only accelerate 5.7 seconds to 60 mph. i had over 450 hp in it before i demodified it and i could still only achieve high to mid 12's. its a nice and sexy car, but somewhat of a boat. thaqts why im looking forward to the evo. the STi will most likely be heavier, and will acellerate slower... i say scoobie needed to make it have DCCD and 300 hp just to keep up with the evo with no acd and only 271 hp. but if you look at past evos, they have actually had alot more hp than they said... whos to say the us spec evo 8 wont have more than 271 hp?

 

broeli did you hear anything about how soon a six speed was going to be available?

 

Me I really don't care about the h.p. you could tune it I would pic a evo over the sti it looks better plain and simple I just cared about the 6 speed.

 

Grr. No one knows the exact performance specs on either god damn car. It is impossible to know what car is better. Even talking 'traditionally' dosnt work. There has never been an Evo in the states and there has never been a 2.5t STi. We dont know **** yet. Stop frickin assuming people.

 

I agree wholeheartedly with you, and I am quite dissapointed with what I see now (though I really don't care because i'm not getting a car for two years). However, from what I recall in other magazine articles, what allowed to Evo to be at a little better than the STi was the fact that it came with ACD. Both cars handle extremely well, the ACD just boosted the Evo a bit. So as to which car handles well, I'd say they are about equal... but then again, we don't know what we are getting so I can't say much yet.

 

I'm actually considering STi b/c of DCCD and 2.5 liter (more
power potential)...
dont care about 6 speed and others...

Feb video of Best Motoring will race the new STi (2.0 turbo) and
STi spec C against EVO7 GSR and RS...

The STi's performance has always been behind the EVO's...
(at least from the many Best Motoring vidoes I watched)... I really
want to see if DCCD will make the difference needed for STi's to
beat EVOs....