Dive by wire?
I hope it dosen't have it. Those systems are usually done for emissions reasons and usually hurt throttle response especially when you lift of the gas (to get the car to tighten its line in hard cornering). They make the engine feel slugish and unresponsive (usually)
I test drove a Nissan Altima 3.5 SE and they have electronic throttle, from my experience with that car it seemed pretty responsive (although it was only a test drive and can't account for a lot of other variables).
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I drove the 3.5L maxima and every time you take your foot off the gas to shift the rpms keep going for about 300 more revs than when you took your foot off so the chip can send the signal to the throtttle to close. It takes extra time thats not needed. Yes it does feel a hell of alot slower than it should be to respond. However when it does respond it is very fast and very powerfull, (for its class). Some companys like to use the electronic throttle to vary how much the throttle opens reletaive to pedel movement. I personnally like to move my foot more to get more power. Another flaw in the nissan (even the 350Z) elect. throttle is that it cuts power to 25% maximum at "WOT" if the brake and gas are applied at the same time. Thus no left foot braking
. Ive given several resons to not use electronic throttle, anyone have a reason for it?
PS this is my 350th post, when do I become Evolved?
PS this is my 350th post, when do I become Evolved?
Originally posted by Guack007
I drove the 3.5L maxima and every time you take your foot off the gas to shift the rpms keep going for about 300 more revs than when you took your foot off so the chip can send the signal to the throtttle to close. It takes extra time thats not needed. Yes it does feel a hell of alot slower than it should be to respond. However when it does respond it is very fast and very powerfull, (for its class). Some companys like to use the electronic throttle to vary how much the throttle opens reletaive to pedel movement. I personnally like to move my foot more to get more power. Another flaw in the nissan (even the 350Z) elect. throttle is that it cuts power to 25% maximum at "WOT" if the brake and gas are applied at the same time. Thus no left foot braking
. Ive given several resons to not use electronic throttle, anyone have a reason for it?
PS this is my 350th post, when do I become Evolved?
I drove the 3.5L maxima and every time you take your foot off the gas to shift the rpms keep going for about 300 more revs than when you took your foot off so the chip can send the signal to the throtttle to close. It takes extra time thats not needed. Yes it does feel a hell of alot slower than it should be to respond. However when it does respond it is very fast and very powerfull, (for its class). Some companys like to use the electronic throttle to vary how much the throttle opens reletaive to pedel movement. I personnally like to move my foot more to get more power. Another flaw in the nissan (even the 350Z) elect. throttle is that it cuts power to 25% maximum at "WOT" if the brake and gas are applied at the same time. Thus no left foot braking
PS this is my 350th post, when do I become Evolved?
Charles
Some cars with electronic throttle simply use throttle pedal position as an indication of how fast you want to go. That is to say that throttle plate position is not directly related to pedal position. Other cars provide a 1:1 linear mapping, I think the Z does as mentioned above. But as was also said, it cuts throttle to 25% when brakes are on. It's an "anti-stupid-driver" feature I guess. Why would you EVER want to gas and brake at the same time?
But if you have an electronic throttle that is directly mapped to pedal position, why use an electronic throttle in the first place, right? It's just one more thing that can break...
But if you have an electronic throttle that is directly mapped to pedal position, why use an electronic throttle in the first place, right? It's just one more thing that can break...
Originally posted by chronohunter
IThose systems are usually done for emissions reasons and usually hurt throttle response especially when you lift of the gas
IThose systems are usually done for emissions reasons and usually hurt throttle response especially when you lift of the gas
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Originally posted by Guack007
PS this is my 350th post, when do I become Evolved?
PS this is my 350th post, when do I become Evolved?
Originally posted by Daveyd
KK, Maybe you can tell us how many posts get us to each "level"..
KK, Maybe you can tell us how many posts get us to each "level"..
I have a question for Mark though. Everyone is an Adminstrator who has a substantially larger number of posts than the Evolved Member cutoff. Since they're Admins we don't see a title and I'm extremely curious what the "super huge number of posts" title is?
Last edited by Yojimbo; Jan 14, 2003 at 05:25 PM.
Originally posted by iodine23
But as was also said, it cuts throttle to 25% when brakes are on. It's an "anti-stupid-driver" feature I guess. Why would you EVER want to gas and brake at the same time?
But as was also said, it cuts throttle to 25% when brakes are on. It's an "anti-stupid-driver" feature I guess. Why would you EVER want to gas and brake at the same time?

PS thnx for the evolved info.


