Gracing - What plug?

 

Now it all makes sense. However you did fail to mention that you put your head in your ***. This could be the equivalent of a helmet and may be why you can withstand such an impact without your head cracking like an egg.

 

does pulling this plug disable the airbag though??? i've known cars that were like that in the past...

 

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Heh... my 2003 didn't come with this neat beeping feature you guys are talking about.

 

I don't think hitting a car window/dresser is the same as the impact you get from even a 20mph collision.

And putting your seat all the way back might keep you away from the dashboard but it would do very little for your car control. I am not saying you can't control the car but you could do it a lot better if you were closer (unless of course you are very tall). And better car control will keep you out of accidents.

@ Cash Money: The seatbelt might have caused those injuries but have the experts told you what sort of injuries you would have had if you didn't have a seatbelt on? Surely if it was at any speed your head would have at least hit the steering wheel?

Maybe there is a small number of crashes where a seatbelt can cause more injuries than it stops but I would rather go with the majority when it comes to my safety.

Aston

 

LMAO ROFL you hit the nail on the head there. that was hilarious.

 

because of the angle i was at... the way my body was turned... and, because i do drive with the seat all the way back, since i'm 6'2-6'3, i would've worst case ended up with a sore shoulder from the door panel or wheel since it's a high impact absorbing body part... instead, i have severe deep tissue damage as well as medium disk damage with a lil' nerve damage... Ironic thing is, this almost happened a second time to me before... just the impact was a 2.5-5mph tap... same positions, just different stop sign... lol... then again, that's just my luck...

I do believe in belts, just at speed... going 15-25mph in the city, i don't believe in them just from my prior experience that's sticking with me for a long time... now, at night after 2am, i will wear a belt due to the stupidly large number of drunken hessians around here... stupid waste city i live in... lol... and anything above 30mph, i think a belt is a good thing...

Chris...

 

Actually I had the same thing happen, and the injuries were 100% caused by my body being turned to look back, and *NOT* the seatbelt.. What happened is when you turned your body, your spine got twisted further in the impact due to the mass of the car moving forward, and your shoulder hitting the seat back and turning your body further around.. This is what my doctors had seen, I had an injury in my lower back, which compressed the bundles of nerves in my spine in the lumbar area, took months to be able to walk again, and years before I stopped having pain.

There is NO POSSIBLE WAY that the seatbelt could have contributed to that injury in a rear impact unless it resulted in another front impact against another car or object in front of you, and the impact would have to transfer enough energy to move the car at a fast enough rate into the object in front.

There's no question that there are rare occasions that a seatbelt can contribute to an injury, but for the vast majority of accidents it will be the difference between a few bruises, or reconstructive surgery.. I think "Justification" like that is just ignorant. Might as well **** on the third rail of a train track, you'll have about the same odds of getting hurt, yet people will still ask you WTF you were thinking afterwards regardless..

 

Sure, the skull can withstand a decent blow.. but it will crack, and can shatter at higher speeds.. unfortunately the skull isn't the thing your trying to protect, its what inside, your brain...... a good impact that causes your skull to suddenly stop moving will mean your brain continues to move inside your skull.. essentially turning your brain into pudding.. Internal organs also have ligaments holding them in place, especially the heart, and a sudden impact would cause rapid deceleration injuries such as ruptures in the organs as the seperate from their ligaments and connective tissue, or of course, you can die instantly when you sever your aorta from impacting the steering wheel..

Seat belts and airbags slow your deceleration, the belts stretch slightly so that the secondary collision is less severe (organs hitting the inside of your body) airbags assist that even more, and also prevent your head from snapping forward and hitting the steering wheel or anything else in the way depending on how close you are seated..

Ok I'm done.. there's nothing cool about not wearing your setbelt.. if you don't, your an utter moron.. Sorry to be harsh but I've seen what the aftermath of bad accidents looks like, both with and without seatbelts and airbags..

 

I know this is late, but you sure are right. The funny thing is, I know a guy who was saved because he wasn't wearing his seatbelt. Had he not been ejected, he would have died, as the car slid into a pole, which demolished the driver's side. Instead, he was ejected into a grassy center median, and escaped with only a cracked skull (not badly cracked, though) and a broken leg.

 

I do understand what you're trying to say, and maybe you can't understand my sit totally... but, my accident wasn't a clean cut rear end... the angle of my car, the rate of speed, and the fact that the belt allowed my body to swivel right side forward while turned over my left side, the belt did not allow my full body to move forward at a move "even" angle and rate... the over-strain and then retension iced the cake...

this was investigated by not only my doctors, but, car ins co doctors as well as auto-industry crash reps, and all side agreed on what happened... and the severity... any probs with my back that can be even slightly blaimed on the accident's off-set whiplash is covered from here on out for me...

because of this... i believe that i'm better off without belt in my city ventures, until proven wrong... till then, i was a moron to have my belt on... and, i believe ppl that DON'T/CAN'T grasp the facts, the proven facts of what happened in this situation, are the morons for being closed minded and just because they can't grasp and comprehend that anything is possible in life and call other's morons because of that...

 

I can understand that in your situation the seatbelt caused you more injuries than it prevented. BUT the thing is that it wasn't just the seatbelt, like you said it was the angle of your car, the speed, the angle you were facing, and a lot of other things that combined together with the seatbelt to cause these injuries.

So for that particular situation you should not have been wearing a seatbelt, but in a lot of other situations (probably the majority) a seatbelt can save your life. Like I said before I would rather go with the majority. I chance being injured by the seatbelt in a few less likely situations to have my life saved when something more likely happens.

I don't know what your city speed limits are like there (I am in Australia) but even a 30mph collision can cause you to be thrown forward with a lot of force, maybe more than your arms can hold you back. Also if you have an airbag and don't wear a seatbelt you could hit the airbag at the wrong angle and cause serious damage or be killed.

Aston

 

on a side note, im totally with cash money. i refuse to wear my seat belt in the city, i just dont honestly see the need for it. on the highway, depending on how far im going and how fast i plan on getting there, i use my belt 65% of the time.

 

the plug I was referring to is under the drivers seat on the seat rail closest to the center console, it's plugged into the seatbelt reciever, unplugging it will clear the seatbelt light, and for you with 05's (do 04's do it too?) it will stop the beeping.

if you remove the entire front seatbelt assembly, you will need to unplug an airbag system connector from the seatbelt return assembly. This will throw an SRS code and disable your airbags. if you plug it back in, the srs system will return to normal and the light will go off.

I'll keep my opinions to myself...

***disclaimer***
I'm not recommending unplugging these things