I totally agree. If we want to talk about racing on a budget then for the $30K I spent on my Evo I could have an 8 second Fox body or even Turbo Civic. They'd be lacking an interior and wouldn't be exactly streetable though . Shoot, I could have bought an '03 Mustang GT, slapped a supercharger on it and be running high 11s now for less than the Evo cost. None of that matters. What does matter is that we're part of an exclusive club as it is, we drive low volume cars that you don't see 20 of on your way to work. If you get the MR or RS then you're in an even more exclusive club (I have yet to see either on the street). I don't think the MR is worth the extra money, but I can understand why it is to others. Just as I can understand the want for the RS but I'd never spend $28K on a car that doesn't even have electric windows .

 

The six speed was a drop in performance. All it did was tighten up the gear ration and not change the final drive. So a modded gsr will be much faster with the five speed than a modded mr with the six speed, more shifting = less time on throttle.

 

This competition is so simple it's annoying...

The MR is for those who really want the best (like Singaporeans).

GSR is for people who want something great, but are stricter with money.

RS is for those crazy *** racers that want something stripped down, because they'll just put lots of money into everything anyway.

I don't get this argument. MR is not much more (pricewise it's only about 500 dollars) than a GSR with SSL. Why not spend a little more and get the best. For me, it's not worth it, I just want a stock GSR, and plan on keeping it like that. Some guys like to mod, the RS is for them. Some guys want to be the top dog, the MR is for them. Other guys (cowards) like to ride in comfort, the SSL GSR is probably for them.

 

At the end of the day does it really matter what model or year Evo you own. There will always be a faster car on the block and you just have to deal with it. Whatever model Evo one chooses to buy is obviously the right model for that person. 20 ft. here 5 tenths of a second there....blah. They are all Evos!

BTW I am getting the RS cause its cheaper...fits my lifestyle for the time being. Would I love to get the MR? Of course, I am just happy that I can own an EVO as we all should.

 

If I had the money, I'd get the RS. The RS is a true "pony car" of the 2000's. I love having power windows in my cheap 120-hp Lancer ES, but I'd give them up in a second for a 270+ hp car for only 25k. What's the extra work to roll up your damn window at the drive thru? Ok, so maybe it doesn't look as pimp if you're trying to impress the Mexican drive thru attendant with tatooed eyebrows, but hey, at least you have a fast car

I wish they made Civics that way. I have (and had) a Civic DX and I wish they just made the same car but with the better engine for cheap. Why do I have to get power **** and a moonroof just for the VTEC? Just give me the VTEC!

I like the idea of a car having bare-to-the-bones features with a powerful engine. It's just so damn logical!

I know I'm on a lower level than you elite EVO owners when I say this, but that's why I got an ES Lancer instead of an OZ. If you want to mod a base Lancer, ES is the way to go. 14" steelies, no body kit, no frills, no extra expenses. Now I got aluminum Enkei rims on mine with all the cherries to come...

Back in the '60s it was all about getting a base Mustang or Camaro and customizing it. Now, it's the Lancer's turn

 

Let me correct myself" not cheaper but less expensive".

 

From driving both of them, reviewing the Gear ratios etc. It looks like an added gear. No need to shift more at the drag due to the similarity in ratios. It gave a better highway gear so you aren't cruising at 3500 rpms going 60.

 

dude Ill tell you why its BS. 1st 6speed Gearbox means NOTHing if you have a evo gsr with a GT35R Turbo Kit and 3 in exhaust. You will still have like 2 grand to put into suspention. 7Grand for Vortex Generator, LSD,6speed and ACD for a couple of feet come on man. Also you buy a vortex gen for less than 200 bucks make it look somewhat like an MR. You boy is lunchin wit the that 1st Gen DSM. its OLD has no class and just fast . Im sleep on thoughs things.

 

Just look at it this way, we all bought the Evo because of it's racing heritage and extreme racing capabilities. I did not buy it for comfort. Plus, I like to see these guys that pay top dollar for there supercars and end up out runned by a car like ours. Yes, I want the fastest one!

 

I also think its stupid for us to argue about which EVO is better. I like all EVOs, RS, VIII GSR, and MR. I bought my RS because I wanted the stripped model to take to the track, and because it was a lot cheaper than the other models.

Peeps who bought GSR and MR have their own good reasons. It's your money, spend it however you want (as long as you don't buy an SRT-4 lol).

 

so not worth it .... zzzzzz

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MR wasnt worth it for me, but people who buy MR's werent considering the "well if i saved 7 grand by getting an RS, i could make the RS SO much faster" crap. There are a lot of cars you can make fast, at a heck of a lot cheaper price than an RS too. People who buy MR's are buying exclusivity mostly, and enjoy the pride in ownership that comes along with it. Its not about cost of upgrades, etc. Why do people buy 911 turbos over zo6 corvettes? Its not becasue they are exceptionally faster (if they are at all), its all about pride and exclusivity, not $ vs speed. MR owners just want the uber Evo, and are willing to pay the 5k or 7k or whatever it is to have that.

 

It depends on what you want, END OF STORY

 

I got my RS cause its more of an autoX car then anything, I RARELY drive it on the street (got a work trucK). I specifically didnt want a sunroof or the spoiler, and power options dont bother me. Only 1 car that I've owned had all the options, and while it was nice, I dont mind rolling up my own windows and opening my locks with a key. I figure if I was gonna have to special order a GSR without the above said options, might as well get the RS. Besides, at 27k out the door, that left me with a LOT more flexibility to mod. It would be nice to say I've got the biggest, baddest, newest, fastest, but so what? At least I can say there were 1000 MR's produced, but only 700 RS's I've seen two MR's and I've yet to see a single RS....course a guy from AWDPirates gave up on the STi and went and bought a WW 04 RS and lives just around the corner...so now I know there are at least two in the area lol

 

I have to say that each car is made for each need and for every demanding person. I own a 05 MR , and I use to have a 03 special edition sonic yellow WRX.
God is my witness that I spent nearly $12k modyfing my WRX and that includes all the parts, labor, tunning and off course 2 repairs of the tranny(It was my third tranny when I decided to traded in for the 05 MR)


My point is very simple, yes I know damn well that I could buy and RS for around $7k less but I did not want a RS, I want it a stock car that has nice BBS forged rims, and ABS, and HID and 6 speed, and vortex, and spoiler, and triple gauge jit, and teflon coated cables, and Biltstein suspension and a CD player and carbon fiber handle brake and aluminium shift knob and a incredible badd *** used retail value unlike the RS.

We could argue all day long, someone brought a good example about the Eclipse GSX turbo that cost $1400, yes you still have $3500 left to do mods, so, JUST DO IT, go and buy yourself an RS and put $7k and make it faster, I certainly don't care, I could it done it but I did not.

As someone say, it is unfair to compare the $7000 into just pure performance because not all the differences pertain to just performnance parts.

I can tell you that a 03RS is a different beast from a 05 MR, end of the history.
This forum is divided in mainly 3 groups:

People like me that can afford the MR and want the car fully loaded without having to add NOTHING

People in the intermidiate level which may or may not have the money but just want to have the EVO 8 GSR

And people that want to save $7000 no mather what so that you spend the money in engine/ suspension performance parts and want to build their car custom made

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