350whp WITHOUT Cams
I hear where ur coming from.....im sure a few people are a bit skeptical when it comes to modifying the internals of a car, but its definitely worth it in the end.....besides, its more of a pain to install all that stuff people mentioned above......new exhaust manifold, bigger FMIC, NOS, turbo, and so on. As for the lopey idle, the 264 cams, even the 272 cams, can have a stock like idle with a proper tune. Search the threads.....you'll find people are making an assload of HP with cams, and still maintain a smooth idle. I don't mean to preach to u, but cams are really the only way ur gonna make 350 HP, unless u upgrade the turbo. Im sure a lot of people could tell u the same thing.
no bet at alll, im just seeing if its worth trying to do this or not or if i am just dreaming.... I have about 1000 to play with and dont know what to get with it. I can get a nice alky injection kit installed for about that much and perhaps use this as an alternative to race gas, I want to be at 350whp all the time...not just when i use diff gas....i am very opened to suggestions, i might have misphrased "hassle" so plz, just any suggestions would be great
Originally Posted by BigLEVO
i have heard 264s idle like stock but dont offer the same performance as 272s.
Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Why on pump gas?
Honestly, it's much harder to get serious hp with pump gas, and to do so will probably take not only some serious mods that require serious mechanical knowledge, but you will also need some serious tuning skills. If you don't mind paying for all of that, then it may not be so hard, but if you go with cams and race gas, you can probably hit your goal with very little trouble.
Is this a bet or something? I am not sure why 350-380whp w/o race gas and w/o cams would be so important, but extra complication/parts/installation/cost are less important (if this is the case).
Honestly, it's much harder to get serious hp with pump gas, and to do so will probably take not only some serious mods that require serious mechanical knowledge, but you will also need some serious tuning skills. If you don't mind paying for all of that, then it may not be so hard, but if you go with cams and race gas, you can probably hit your goal with very little trouble.
Is this a bet or something? I am not sure why 350-380whp w/o race gas and w/o cams would be so important, but extra complication/parts/installation/cost are less important (if this is the case).
Originally Posted by BigLEVO
no bet at alll, im just seeing if its worth trying to do this or not or if i am just dreaming.... I have about 1000 to play with and dont know what to get with it. I can get a nice alky injection kit installed for about that much and perhaps use this as an alternative to race gas, I want to be at 350whp all the time...not just when i use diff gas....i am very opened to suggestions, i might have misphrased "hassle" so plz, just any suggestions would be great
Originally Posted by inariv5573
Because you just can't go to your nearest gas station and buy race gas. It isn't practical to drive everyday with race gas...do you?
Originally Posted by gsujeff55
Not Gonna Happen On Pump Gas.
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Originally Posted by Vroompsh
cams will open you up to another level of power. you'll be able to make the most of your mods especially with a proper tune...i did my own cams, its not that hard. use evomoto.com's cam install tutorial
Originally Posted by WHTEVO
i was at 358whp and 368wtq on pump gas(93 octane). this was with intake, bc, fuel pump, bov, tbe w/ test pipe, afc. so it is attainable. i haven't dynoed with upgraded intercooler and all hard pipes yet that i now have. my turbo kit finally came in so that and a few other goodies will be going in soon. will post numbers before new stuff goes on.
Originally Posted by tke_413
All depends, I just put the 264/264's in and went from 295.9 to 342.8 and it pulls like a damn train in any gear (especially 3rd).
