Will a Re-flash void my warranty?
Originally Posted by webguy330i
Yes they did. The district rep passed them to the service manager who showed them to me. I was told someone at Mitsu HQ went online and aggregated them all.
Ridiculous isn't it?
Ridiculous isn't it?
Originally Posted by webguy330i
Yes they did. The district rep passed them to the service manager who showed them to me. I was told someone at Mitsu HQ went online and aggregated them all.
Ridiculous isn't it?
Ridiculous isn't it?
, I mean neither would I if I was MMNA but I seriously hope this was a renegade REP. and not the "norm"
Originally Posted by DavidV@WORKS
Sorry for the late response, SabreLion, I thought you might have already seen my response to this elsewhere in the forum. For the record, here it is.
(1) The Mitsubishi techs cannot detect the WORKS Brain flash, including the changed rev limit, with any diagnostic tools.
(2) We do not, at present, offer a stock rev limit Brain flash. However, should the need arise, we can flash your ECU back to 100% bone stock.
My further response from this thread is reprinted below:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...ghlight=detect
"We have already run the Mitsubishi scan tool on the Brain flash and were unable to detect the reflash. Also, factory diagnostic codes are still accessible to the technicians, just as they were before the flash programming. ... The Mitsubishi techs cannot at present scan for the Brain flash -- even with the higher rev limit. The scan tools available to dealer techs change on a regular basis. At present, they cannot detect the change.... .
The Mitsubishi techs can, of course, drive the car and notice that the rev limit has been increased. The chances of this happening are slim to none during routine service "test drives." If it ever came up, the Mitsubishi tech would have a lot of explaining to do as to why they were bouncing a customer's car off the rev limiter.
In addition, under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, which SEMA lobbied for and passed (www.sema.org) , it would be illegal for Mitsubishi to log and void the powertrain warranty on the car as described. The Act states, in essence, that if an aftermarket part causes the failure of an OEM part, that repair will not be covered by the warranty and the dealer may elect to void that portion of the warranty coverage. So... it is not enough to modify the car (raise the rev limit) -- the modification (Brain flash) needs to itself directly lead to the failure of an OEM part for which warranty coverage is sought in order to even become an issue.
Please feel free to read up on the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act:
"“No warrantor of a consumer product may condition his written or implied warranty of such product on the consumers using, in connection with such product, any article or service (other than article or service provided without charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand, trade or corporate name....” (15 U.S.C. 2302(C))."
-- DavidV
(1) The Mitsubishi techs cannot detect the WORKS Brain flash, including the changed rev limit, with any diagnostic tools.
(2) We do not, at present, offer a stock rev limit Brain flash. However, should the need arise, we can flash your ECU back to 100% bone stock.
My further response from this thread is reprinted below:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...ghlight=detect
"We have already run the Mitsubishi scan tool on the Brain flash and were unable to detect the reflash. Also, factory diagnostic codes are still accessible to the technicians, just as they were before the flash programming. ... The Mitsubishi techs cannot at present scan for the Brain flash -- even with the higher rev limit. The scan tools available to dealer techs change on a regular basis. At present, they cannot detect the change.... .
The Mitsubishi techs can, of course, drive the car and notice that the rev limit has been increased. The chances of this happening are slim to none during routine service "test drives." If it ever came up, the Mitsubishi tech would have a lot of explaining to do as to why they were bouncing a customer's car off the rev limiter.
In addition, under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, which SEMA lobbied for and passed (www.sema.org) , it would be illegal for Mitsubishi to log and void the powertrain warranty on the car as described. The Act states, in essence, that if an aftermarket part causes the failure of an OEM part, that repair will not be covered by the warranty and the dealer may elect to void that portion of the warranty coverage. So... it is not enough to modify the car (raise the rev limit) -- the modification (Brain flash) needs to itself directly lead to the failure of an OEM part for which warranty coverage is sought in order to even become an issue.
Please feel free to read up on the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act:
"“No warrantor of a consumer product may condition his written or implied warranty of such product on the consumers using, in connection with such product, any article or service (other than article or service provided without charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand, trade or corporate name....” (15 U.S.C. 2302(C))."
-- DavidV
This post is over a year old and I havent been able to find anything recent concerning 05's.
Last edited by KILTERMAN; Jun 1, 2005 at 11:34 PM.
I dont think it will work on the 05s, many people are complaining about the flashing of ECUs being detectable by Mitsubishi for the 05 Evos...but anyways..technology will catch up sooner or later.
Regarding the MM warranty act, it doesn't ****ing matter. Illegal or not, they may (more like, will) do it (void your warranty and tell you to take a hike). They will wait for you to either 1) accept it and forget that you paid for warranty support when you bought the car, or 2) bring legal action. Threatening them with the MM act or any other warranty supporting law simply gets you nowhere.
All I'm saying is that I used to rely on the 'legality' of mods and such on a car, but the truth is that it's a different story when push comes to shove and you actually have to battle with the dealer and/or manufacturer over that issue.
All I'm saying is that I used to rely on the 'legality' of mods and such on a car, but the truth is that it's a different story when push comes to shove and you actually have to battle with the dealer and/or manufacturer over that issue.
