05's > 03's
I have both an '03 and an '05. Stock vs. Stock the 05 is definitely torquier. Its noticeably faster, but not a huge amount. But the 05 responded much more to a reflash (both by /Al). With similar mods, the 05 is now much faster. Some of the dyno plots from Al on a MR with just a flash and MBC are awesome, I think there were some around 295whp with just a flash/mbc.
The 05 has a smoother shifter, for sure. But its not as tight or mechanical as the 03. I think its a wash, but its true the 05 is easier to shift for someone who isn't familiar with the car.
ACD works, its changes the character of the car. I find myself clicking it to tarmac for tight corners and clicking back to gravel or snow for long high-speed sweepers. You don't want oversteer in a 90mph sweeper.
But, does anyone know if the spring rates have changed? My 05 is softer than my wifes 03 for sure. Thats my only complaint vs the 03.
-Dave
'05 Elise
'05 Evo
'03 Evo
The 05 has a smoother shifter, for sure. But its not as tight or mechanical as the 03. I think its a wash, but its true the 05 is easier to shift for someone who isn't familiar with the car.
ACD works, its changes the character of the car. I find myself clicking it to tarmac for tight corners and clicking back to gravel or snow for long high-speed sweepers. You don't want oversteer in a 90mph sweeper.
But, does anyone know if the spring rates have changed? My 05 is softer than my wifes 03 for sure. Thats my only complaint vs the 03.
-Dave
'05 Elise
'05 Evo
'03 Evo
Originally Posted by HwangTKD
My brother picked up a silver 05 a week ago. The interior is so much more refined with the leather (he has ssl). The tranny is incredible, shifts like butter! The sound is 100x better than my stock system. And his car STOCK is just as fast as my car with mbc, flash, TBE, and highflow cat! I couldnt believe how well his car handled/accelerated!
For example:
05 GSR w/S-AFC, K&N Cone, TBE, 110oct - 12.29@111
05 MR w/S-AFC, K&N, Cat-Back, MBC, MR DV, 104 oct - 12.22@109-111
05 MR w/Flash, test pipe, 93 oct - 12.65@108
05 GSR w/S-AFC, TBE, 93 oct - 12.45@109
These are just a few examples. Most 03-04s w/basic bolt-ons and cams don't hit 12.2, but the ET is not really as important as the mph. Most cammed 03-04s can and do hit 111-113 even on 93 oct, so they are making great power, but not much more than the ones you see listed here.
I'm surprised you don't know how to spell stroker. I mean, that is what you are acting like....
so what i cant spell i know what im talking about i can feel how car moves and acts to things. but its ok i like when you make fun of me. and evo IX ya maybe sick but i dont like look of the back. but more can tell till it comes out. which i want to see whats under the hood. i dont care about looks to much i want that power and handling.
Originally Posted by mybada
This makes me wonder how nice EVO IX will be...
Originally Posted by Warrtalon
This shouldn't really be a surprise, unless none of you read the Drag Racing forum. The 05s are definitely faster in stock form, and that additional power continues to show itself throughout the modding process. Go look at the 3-4 of us with 05s who are getting unprecedented ET/MPH with minimal mods.
For example:
05 GSR w/S-AFC, K&N Cone, TBE, 110oct - 12.29@111
05 MR w/S-AFC, K&N, Cat-Back, MBC, MR DV, 104 oct - 12.22@109-111
05 MR w/Flash, test pipe, 93 oct - 12.65@108
05 GSR w/S-AFC, TBE, 93 oct - 12.45@109
These are just a few examples. Most 03-04s w/basic bolt-ons and cams don't hit 12.2, but the ET is not really as important as the mph. Most cammed 03-04s can and do hit 111-113 even on 93 oct, so they are making great power, but not much more than the ones you see listed here.
For example:
05 GSR w/S-AFC, K&N Cone, TBE, 110oct - 12.29@111
05 MR w/S-AFC, K&N, Cat-Back, MBC, MR DV, 104 oct - 12.22@109-111
05 MR w/Flash, test pipe, 93 oct - 12.65@108
05 GSR w/S-AFC, TBE, 93 oct - 12.45@109
These are just a few examples. Most 03-04s w/basic bolt-ons and cams don't hit 12.2, but the ET is not really as important as the mph. Most cammed 03-04s can and do hit 111-113 even on 93 oct, so they are making great power, but not much more than the ones you see listed here.
Your right, i dont read the drag forums. That pretty impressive! I cant wait to see what an 05 does with cams!
Originally Posted by HwangTKD
Your right, i dont read the drag forums. That pretty impressive! I cant wait to see what an 05 does with cams!
Originally Posted by mike1023
so what i cant spell i know what im talking about i can feel how car moves and acts to things. but its ok i like when you make fun of me. and evo IX ya maybe sick but i dont like look of the back. but more can tell till it comes out. which i want to see whats under the hood. i dont care about looks to much i want that power and handling.
Originally Posted by EVOtagger
hmmm thats funny...i dyno'd higher than an 05 Evo MR with the same mods as me except i dont have the 10.5 hotside