05's > 03's
Originally Posted by EVOtagger
nope both tuned XEDE's by shiv...same day same dyno
Originally Posted by 4-BNGR
Umm, they're not 
In my '03 I trapped 104.96 with cat back, K&N, boost controller, and S-AFC on 93 octane. This was without a launch and I may have trapped slightly faster had I launched the car. At the time I could not afford a new clutch and figured I shouldn't be tempting fate by launching. I see that with similar mods on 99 octane Warrtalon trapped 109.19. My tune at the time was A/F ratios at ~11.0:1 and boost at 19.5 psi.
-Paul
-Paul
Originally Posted by PVD04
In my '03 I trapped 104.96 with cat back, K&N, boost controller, and S-AFC on 93 octane. This was without a launch and I may have trapped slightly faster had I launched the car. At the time I could not afford a new clutch and figured I shouldn't be tempting fate by launching. I see that with similar mods on 99 octane Warrtalon trapped 109.19. My tune at the time was A/F ratios at ~11.0:1 and boost at 19.5 psi.
Oh, and btw, I _was_ launching hard and was rewarded with a bad clutch, so I think you did the right thing by not "tempting fate."
On the bright side, I'll have a _real_ clutch (ACT) in there in a few days, so I'll be able to really drive the car now.
Originally Posted by delliott00
I have both an '03 and an '05. Stock vs. Stock the 05 is definitely torquier. Its noticeably faster, but not a huge amount. But the 05 responded much more to a reflash (both by /Al). With similar mods, the 05 is now much faster. Some of the dyno plots from Al on a MR with just a flash and MBC are awesome, I think there were some around 295whp with just a flash/mbc.
The 05 has a smoother shifter, for sure. But its not as tight or mechanical as the 03. I think its a wash, but its true the 05 is easier to shift for someone who isn't familiar with the car.
ACD works, its changes the character of the car. I find myself clicking it to tarmac for tight corners and clicking back to gravel or snow for long high-speed sweepers. You don't want oversteer in a 90mph sweeper.
But, does anyone know if the spring rates have changed? My 05 is softer than my wifes 03 for sure. Thats my only complaint vs the 03.
-Dave
'05 Elise
'05 Evo
'03 Evo
The 05 has a smoother shifter, for sure. But its not as tight or mechanical as the 03. I think its a wash, but its true the 05 is easier to shift for someone who isn't familiar with the car.
ACD works, its changes the character of the car. I find myself clicking it to tarmac for tight corners and clicking back to gravel or snow for long high-speed sweepers. You don't want oversteer in a 90mph sweeper.
But, does anyone know if the spring rates have changed? My 05 is softer than my wifes 03 for sure. Thats my only complaint vs the 03.
-Dave
'05 Elise
'05 Evo
'03 Evo
Last edited by blackevoVII; Jun 21, 2005 at 01:31 PM.
Originally Posted by Warrtalon
They aren't? 12.9-13.1@104-105 seems a lot faster than 13.3-13.5@101-103 in stock form, and then with minimal mods, the gap is even wider. See below or check the drag racing forum.
Originally Posted by Warrtalon
How do you own a brand new Evo at the age of 19 if you can't even form complete sentences with even the equivalent of 3rd-grade spelling? I know I'm a known "hater" when it comes to kids owning Evos, but this is just ridiculous. Asking about a "2.3 stocker" when you have a 2-week old 05 Evo and no discernable education is mind-boggling.
Originally Posted by Warrtalon
But that's what you refuted...a stock 05 not being so much faster than a stock 03.
Originally Posted by 4-BNGR
Never said anything about stock for stock and even so that's racing on "paper" not on the street...
It is _not_ paper racing, because I personally ran 13.1@104 on my _first_ try EVER with my MR, and that was with a bad 60'. You don't see anyone here running that with a stock 03 or 04. Better drivers have gotten 12.9s and 13.0s @ 105, which again is quite a difference from the 03/04 times you see, where the best are usually a 13.3 with only 102mph or so. This shows that the 05s definitely are faster...
Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Oh, and btw, I _was_ launching hard and was rewarded with a bad clutch, so I think you did the right thing by not "tempting fate." On the bright side, I'll have a _real_ clutch (ACT) in there in a few days, so I'll be able to really drive the car now.
On the bright side, I'll have a _real_ clutch (ACT) in there in a few days, so I'll be able to really drive the car now.