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I've been asking around to find what would be best for pure power gains and i have conflicted opinions and was looking to you people for a wider span of opinions. As of now i have a jic catback, hks bov, aem intake and was wondering which would be better for my car at the moment. option 1- hks cams, most likely 264's, hks cam gears, new head stud's valve springs etc.. and walboro fuel pump and 720cc injectors option 2- AEM EMS with some sort of EBC. any opinions appreciated, the more the merrier thanks

en1gma19

iTrader: (23)

If you plan on going the AEM route eventually anyway, I would suggest going ahead and doing that. Cams would likely give you more power, but cams can be outgrown and may later need to be upgraded. You will never outgrow the EMS. Ever. With the EMS in place, you will be ready for absolutely anything you can wish to throw at the car. As long as you have a competent tuner, you will not be disappointed.

fromWRXtoEVO

iTrader: (18)

Get the cams HKS 264/264 then get a MBC Hallman and mail flash from Dynoflash.

Most of the stuff that you want to install would not make you power at all, like these items:

720cc Injectors, Fuel pump,Cam gears,, head studs, valve springs




Here I copied and pasted my Evolution 8 evolution as far time track goes:


Mods: cone air filter, Works downpipe,Greddy Evo catback,Works 3"HF cat, car weighted 3226lb with just under half tank (without me)

30 JAN 2005
1) 13.80@103.62 3" tb,CAI
2) 13.730@101.76 3" tb,CAI
3) 13.704@102.29 3" tb,CAI
4) 13.661@104.68 3" tb,CAI
5) 13.591@102.48 3" tb,CAI
6) 13.423@103.61 3" tb,CAI

12 MARCH 05
13.8@103mph and rev limiter quicked in and missed 4th 3" tb,CAI
13.4@105 3" tb,CAI
13.3@105 3" tb,CAI


30 April note:
13.6@102 2.1 60 ft time 3" tb,CAI
13.6 @103 2.0 60' time 3" tb,CAI
(5k rpm rev limit disconnected) 13.4@104 1.9 60' time 3" tb,CAI
(5k rpm rev limiter disconnected) 13.2@104 1.9 60' time 3" tb,CAI


May 5th Remember I put HKS 264/264

1) 13.183@105.18 1.926 60' 3" tb,CAI,MBC,264/264 CAMS
2) 13.084@104.97 1.884 60' 3" tb,CAI,MBC,264/264 CAMS
3) 13.081@105.82 1.890 60' 3" tb,CAI,MBC,264/264 CAMS
4) 12.991@107.07 1.894 60' 3" tb,CAI,MBC,264/264 CAMS
5) 12.886@107.13 1.821 60' 3" tb,CAI,MBC,264/264 CAMS

14 may 2005 Now car is custom tuned by Al(Dynoflash)

Note: car dropped 1 full second with the cams, dynoflash and rev limter switch disconnet

12.887@105.91 3" tb,CAI,MBC,264/264 CAMS,Custom Dynoflash
13.004@104.91 3" tb,CAI,MBC,264/264 CAMS,Custom Dynoflash
12.851@106.56 3" tb,CAI,MBC,264/264 CAMS,Custom Dynoflash
12.833@106.77 3" tb,CAI,MBC,264/264 CAMS,Custom Dynoflash
12.795@105.62 3" tb,CAI,MBC,264/264 CAMS,Custom Dynoflash
12.702@105.94 3" tb,CAI,MBC,264/264 CAMS,Custom Dynoflash


29 may 2005

12.661@105.80 60' 1.719 60' 3" tb,CAI,MBC,264/264 CAMS,Custom Dynoflash

30 may2005

12.684@106.10 60' 1.759 3" tb,CAI,MBC,264/264 CAMS,Custom Dynoflash

June 11th 2005

1st run(still on 91)
60' 1.808
1/8 mile 8.114@85.14
1/4 mile 12.731@106.96 3" tb,CAI,MBC,264/264 CAMS,Custom Dynoflash

2nd run (still 91oct)
60' 1.707
1/8 mile 7.959@84.73
1/4 mile 12.610@105.55 3" tb,CAI,MBC,264/264 CAMS,Custom Dynoflash

3rd run (still with 91 oct gas)
60' 1.808
1/8 mile 8.058 @85.70
1/4 mile 12.662@106.72 3" tb,CAI,MBC,264/264 CAMS,Custom Dynoflash


4th run (with the mix of 91 and 99oct)
60' 1.705
1/8 mile 7.928@85.82
1/4 mile 12.493@108.43
5th run (with 91&99oct) 3" tb,CAI,MBC,264/264 CAMS,Custom Dynoflash


60' 1.899
1/8 mile 8.214@85.80
1/4 mile 12.775@108.69 3" tb,CAI,MBC,264/264 CAMS,Custom Dynoflash
6th run (91&99oct)

60' 1.760
1/8 mile 7.962@@86.13
1/4 mile 12.483@109.29 3" tb,CAI,MBC,264/264 CAMS,Custom Dynoflash
7th run (91&99oct)

misssed third gear 3 times then shifted to 5th
still did a 14.4@104.06 3" tb,CAI,MBC,264/264 CAMS,Custom Dynoflash
8th run 91oct&99oct)

60' 1.790
1/8 mile 7.978@85.74
1/4 12.517@108.97 3" tb,CAI,MBC,264/264 CAMS,Custom Dynoflash

my other runs were:

12.824@106.98 3" tb,CAI,MBC,264/264 CAMS,Custom Dynoflash
13.020@107.41 missed gears 3" tb,CAI,MBC,264/264 CAMS,Custom Dynoflash
13.2@104 missed gears 3" tb,CAI,MBC,264/264 CAMS,Custom Dynoflash
12.673@107.71 3" tb,CAI,MBC,264/264 CAMS,Custom Dynoflash
12.721@107.51 3" tb,CAI,MBC,264/264 CAMS,Custom Dynoflash


I just ordered Lower and upper pipes and I have headers on hand (not installed yet)

BLiu

FYI: The AEM EMS already comes with EBC feature so you don't need another standalone unit.

Brent

topnotchevo

get it all. u know u r anyway, sooner or later.

BuCKxWiLD

iTrader: (3)

i've heard of pretty good HP gains with just EMS speed density.. when tuned right

kyJelly

iTrader: (8)

ems requires a user knowledge of the program because you might need to make adjustments to your map sometimes depending on conditions

i guess it depends if you are hands on