I have even had customers come in that needed to be retuned.
We do a baseline for the car and tune from there. that way they have something to base the difference on. Rather than a number from a different tuner.

 

+1

 

Thus, my initial response. Those numbers aren't even close to being right...not even for a Dynojet, because of the 272wtq. Now, with all of my mods, I only get 269wtq on a Dynojet on a car that runs 12.01!!!

All is not lost, though. If you ONLY use that dyno for the rest of your car's life, then you will be able to see how much you've gained after each mod. Then, you go to the track after each dyno and see how it equates. The dyno is not necessarily important for understanding how much power you have relative to others around the country, but rather in figuring out how much power you gain with the addition of mods. You should go to the drag strip and see how you do now. Then, add some mods, get dyno'd, and hit the drag strip again. This will give you a better idea of where your car is...

Here are my comparisons (all Dynojet readings - all 93 oct):

Stock - 248whp/238wtq - 13.17 @ 103.89
S-AFC - No dyno - 12.8 @ 106.3
Cat-back/S-AFC/MBC - 282whp/259wtq - 12.64 @ 107.2
TBE/S-AFC/MBC - 294whp/269wtq - 12.5 @ 108

Now, I also added race gas when I had the cat-back and ran 12.2 @ 111. I then ran race gas with the full TBE and ran 12.01 @ 113.7. Unfortunately, I've never had race gas when at the dyno, so I can't tell you where I was...

 

From what I've seen, stock 05 evo's should be putting between 205-215 whp. I have a ton of mods including tbe, 264/264, intake, custom tune, and I only put down 263whp on a mustang dyno. This was over at BR. I should be higher but I do have some mixed parts.

Going to take care of that though and add the new 20g, alky, and another Al custom tune. Shooting for over 300whp on the same dyno. Only a 37 increase but I think these mods will do it running 25/26 with the alky.

 

Thanks for all the feed back greatly appreciated

 

What types of numbers are stock Evos normally putting down?

 

Sinister,

I've seen stock 05 #'s anywhere from 205 - 215. Mostly around 210 avg.

 

Geez! That's it?

I've heard of STis putting down around 220whp, and I thought that was insanely low for a car that's putting out 300 crank hp.

Are these Dynapacks or Mustangs that these guys are using? I think it's the Dynapack that the STis are dynoing like 220whp, but on the Mustang, I think it's closer to 230whp. Either way, I still can't believe that these cars are as quick as they are with such small amounts of hp to the wheels; the STi and the Evo both.

I guess I'd rather dyno on the Dynapack. Sure, the numbers may be lower, but it's better to be conservative.

 

The 03's will be around 205-210
05's are closer to 215-220
Keep in mind that the EVO runs a 2.0l versus a 2.5l STI
Published numbers of 300 crank HP for an STI versus 276HP for an EVO.

Numbers mean nothing.

 

Correct. The 2.5L is hardly an advantage though, considering the costs to mod the STi compared to the Evo.

The Evo puts down nearly the same amount of hp than the STi due to a higher gearing, I believe. They simply just make great use of their power.

 

Hmmm...that makes me wonder now. I got dyno'ed at the same place w/ a turboback and k&n drop-in filter and got 254hp/270tq.

I understand the 20hp over your stock, but how the hell would torque be around the same #'s

 

Great numbers, especially for nothing more than a TBE and K&N panel. You figure you picked up 20 whp, so you probably actually gained near 30-35hp at the crank; hardly poor numbers!

Every exhaust varies as far as torque figures. I've actually seen circumstances with other cars (Camaros, Mustangs, Vettes, etc.) where a certain brand exhaust may net 15hp and 20 ftlbs, and then other instances where a different branded exhaust may net 25hp, and actually LOSE torque.

Why does this happen? I couldn't tell you. Maybe it's the way the mufflers are baffled, or the directions of the bends in the pipes.

Anyway, excellent numbers. Because of the extra hp, you're going to notice the power up top, more-so than on the bottom. You're not losing any bottom-end acceleration, because you're not losing torque. I'd be happy with the results.

 

Thanks for the encouragement. Might as well get my dyno sheets out of the garbage then jk.

 

I'd be pretty happy with those numbers.

 

Whoa calm down here guys. Everyone is always so quick to jump the gun here, slamming what people put there heart and soul into doing everyday. It really boggles my mind how people here can instantly discredit something when they have absolutely no idea what the actual story may be.

My name is Dave Gilbert I am the owner of Performance Autowerks, first off we do not inflate dyno numbers, period. I rely on the income from my business to support my family so doing something to jeapordize my family's well being would not be in my best interest at all.

Secondly I do not remember seeing the chart that is being talked about here. The one that I saw showed less torque than that.

If any of you are familiar with the way Mustang dynos work then you will know that the numbers that are printed out can reflect a sharp spike from perhaps a bad reading or misfire or something along those lines. This is probably a simple matter of filtering the results appropriately and then re-printing out the graphs.

I will look into this in the morning and scan in the graph so the truth can be told.

Dave